|What was the original Rx? DMT?|
|Waking up with Psychedelics ($75, May 13th)|
- Vince made an important point that echoed throughout the night: There is no sense in boosterism or pessimism, people who are all for it no matter what, people who are all against it no matter what. That would be no discussion. Let's meet in the middle. Who can tell an adult what to do or not do? Who can be so foolish to think there is no danger? Mindset and setting are key. In between the extremes are the tolerant Buddhists. They don't say yes, don't say no, but say, "We'll see." They listen to the evidence, consider the potential, assess the risks, and do not fall prey to easy answers or magical thinking. This is about seeing reality, experiencing the fullness of consciousness, not checking out unmindfully. You are responsible for you.
|We got everyone in who attended with us.|
|Goodman, Salzberg, Kornfied...Ram Dass|
Then Horn brought out "tolerant Buddhist" Trudy Goodman, who talked about taking acid (LSD) back in the day before finding meditation. She then became a single mother and an avid meditator and left those days behind. Today she's open to the discussion, and this was the official launch of that discussion, though as already said, not a lot of discussing took place. Her brother's bad acid trip, only his fourth, took him out for ten years. He's okay now. But to reiterate, these substances come with danger.
A return to Buddhist shamanism
|A Fierce Heart (Spring Washam)|
She first used it to overcome childhood trauma -- which we bet was sexual, but she did not specify -- after meditating for a long time and realizing that her "stuff" was still with her.
The plant medicine healed her, and right after the event, she got on a plane to return to the jungle for another retreat. She once spent more than a year training to be an ayahuascera or "plant shaman" using this entheogen.
|Author, Buddhist Shaman Spring Washam|
She is only one of two people of color (POC) teaching insight meditation in the Bay Area and is the author of Fierce Heart: Finding Strength, Courage, and Wisdom in Any Moment.
Scientific research at UCLA
Then came the most fascinating speaker of the night, psychedelic researcher Dr. Charles S Grob, M.D. He had as much good to say about MDMA as magic mushrooms (psilocybe) and has not studied LSD, as others do. Details below. The published research has been amazing, progressing apace, and confirmed to help with the psychological trait known as "openness." One case dealt with the social anxiety of a high functioning autistic patient, who was relieved of his suffering.
|UCLA psychedelic researcher Dr. Grob|
|I was Dr. Richard Alpert at Harvard U. I took LSD, went to India, and became Ram Dass.|
|Ram Dass (formerly Dr. Richard Alpert)|
orry, no time for questions, conversation, or discussion. Please buy books on the way out. The mixed-sex bathroom line was out the door. And all that waiting, yet nobody was talking about what we had just seen. There was a bar. Why was there a bar? There was a big foyer to have a spirited discussion in. But this is L.A. Nobody talks in L.A., nor do they walk. It was out to the cemetery parking lot ("Hollywood Forever" is a really cool cemetery that annually celebrates Dia de Los Muertos in full view of the Hollywood sign).
We want more. We want to meditate. We want a chance to ask questions, to contribute to the conversation, to share and discuss experiences, and learn what the Buddha had to say about it.
- What is the modern medical research on entheogens?
- What is the ancient Native American shaman approach?
- Why, according to the Vinaya, are Buddhist monastics allowed to smoke?
- Why did the Buddha single out only alcohol as running counter to the Five Precepts?
- What is the fifth precept actually -- since all of them are commonly misunderstood and interpreted in accordance with our cultural biases rather than those of the Buddha's time?
- Dharma Meditation Initiative at PasaDharma
- "Waking up with Psychedelics: Drugs, Meditation, Enlightenment"
- Thursday, May 31, 2018, 6:30-8:30 PM
- Sequoyah School inside The Neighborhood UU Church, Rm. 23
- 301 N. Orange Grove Bl. (near Colorado Bl.), Pasadena, CA 91103
- Donation: $10 (general admission with RSVP); $20 at door w/o RSVP