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| In Homecoming King, Minhaj talks about growing up caught between cultures (Netflix) |
Comic on roasting Trump and growing up a "Third Culture Kid"
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| Host Terry Gross |
[Love thy neighbor.] As the American-born child of parents who emigrated from India, comic
Hasan Minhaj often feels a little out of place.
"I exist in this
hyphen," he says. "I'm an Indian-American-Muslim kid, but am I more
Indian or am I more American?"
"What part of my identity am I?" Those
are the kinds of questions Minhaj deliberately sidestepped when was
getting his start in comedy.
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| Muslim stand-up comedian Hasan Minhaj |
"It was almost like I was on the playground
all over again," he says of his early career. "I just was afraid if I
get real...people aren't going to like it; they're going to think I'm a
freak."
After years doing stand-up, Minhaj became a correspondent with The Daily Show in 2014.
The following year, he starred in Homecoming King,
a one-man stand-up show in which he began to open up on stage about his
experiences as a "third culture kid" who doesn't fully share in either
the culture of his parents or that of his hometown of Davis, California.
"It wasn't until I started exploring the personal stuff, the
one-man-show stuff, that I kind of got a chance to be more open to the
audience and to my family," he says.
Minhaj's new stand-up special, which is also called Homecoming King, is available on Netflix starting Tuesday.
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Highlights from the interview
On his father's strict rules growing up
One
of the biggest things immigrant kids oftentimes feel is...this big
disparity between our parents and us. And our parents are staunch
pragmatists and I consider myself to be an optimist....
His
rules with me growing up were very simple: no fun, no friends, no
girlfriends. You can have fun in med school, which is, like, a huge lie.
Terry, that's just a blatant lie. All my Indian friends and
Asian-American friends that are in medicine or pharmacy, they will tell
you: It doesn't get poppin' in dental school. It doesn't all of a sudden
get fun where you go to a club and see a bunch of dudes going crazy,
like, "What's going on fellas?" "What's going on? Residency! I'm having
the time of my life." It doesn't work like that!
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| Boogeymen: scary "Muslims" in the propaganda of the US mainstream media machine |
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Again, I felt like for my dad...I have to deliver the dream. I
am aware of that. I go back to Aligarh and I go back to Delhi often,
where my cousins live now, and I'm very aware of the opportunity that I
have when I go meet them. That's where I understand and I empathize with
what my dad feels.
On his mother taking his newborn younger sister to live in India while she finished her residency there
My
younger sister, Ayesha, was born in the States and then, at 2 months
after her birth, she went to go live with my grandparents and be raised
[in India]. So I didn't officially, officially get a chance to really meet her until I was 8 [and Ayesha was 5].
The
tough thing was, again, a lot of immigrant households, when you come to
the States, you don't have the bandwidth and set up to accommodate a
lot of things. My dad is working full time; I'm at school and then I'm
going to...an after school daycare program; and now we have a newborn,
my little sister. My mom is doing residency and rotations, so she's at a
hospital all day. There just wasn't that infrastructure to care for
this newborn baby, and financially that wasn't there. My grandparents
were in India and it was set up in such a way that she could be raised
and she was around cousins and it was an amazing way for her to grow up.
Our
narratives are very different. She grew up in India. Like, literally,
it took a village. She was around people that loved her and were there
for her, and I was this brown kid who was alone in America with his dad.
So when she came back, I was just like, I hate this person. Who are you? I just wanted a mom, and now I got you.
On how doing speech and debate in high school led him to comedy
In
high school I didn't know what comedy was, but I was involved in speech
and debate and public speaking. ...Believe it or not, they are very
similar. ...My favorite comedians are just presenting an argument and
they're doing it in a funny way. And whenever I would do speech and
debate, ... if you can make the judges laugh or if you could ridicule
your opponent's position and make the judges laugh, I always would do
better on the scorecard. ...That's when I really wanted to get into
political comedy and talk about a lot of these topics that sometimes
would be too taboo to talk about in other settings.
On how getting a job at The Daily Show with Jon Stewart marked a turning point in how his parents viewed his career
They
finally could believe that I would be OK because ...Jon, to my dad,
was somebody that you could trust and he was somebody that had figured
things out. ...He was like, "If Jon Stewart says you're alright, then I
think you'll be OK." Just having that co-sign -- more than having steady
income and getting to have your dream job -- having that co-sign with
your parents was just a huge deal.
On election night and trying to get his mom home from a visit to India once it became clear Trump was going to win
We
were doing a live show that night; it was our election night special.
We had a script written that followed what we thought was going to
happen, that Hillary Clinton would be president. [But] as...the
results were coming in, we're literally tearing apart our script. We're
rewriting a one-hour live show in real time, and I'm on WhatsApp audio
with my mom. My mom [is] being like, "We're watching the news. I'm with
your grandma. What's going on?"
So I'm trying to write jokes
about Trump winning the election while I'm on Kayak.com looking up
tickets for her to come back. ...It was a horrible 48 hours. ...And
not knowing that everything will be OK was just really awful. ...We
managed to get her home. ...I didn't want to risk anything.
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On hosting the 2017 White House Correspondents' Dinner and being asked NOT to roast President Trump
The
irony to me was the theme of the night was about honoring the First
Amendment, and you want me to censor myself? That to me -- I couldn't do
it. ...Especially given the fact that the person that I'm roasting, the
president, is someone who has so exploited that incredible privilege of
free speech. The man who tweets whatever enters his head doesn't even
want to honor the amendment that allows him to do it.
That to me just blows my mind. So I wanted to make the conscious choice of, Hey, I will roast [Trump's] merit and I will roast the decisions he's made. I will try to be as tasteful as possible, but I have to talk about this.
That to me just blows my mind. So I wanted to make the conscious choice of, Hey, I will roast [Trump's] merit and I will roast the decisions he's made. I will try to be as tasteful as possible, but I have to talk about this.
Radio
producers Ann Marie Baldonado and Mooj Zadie and Web producers Bridget
Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Nicole Cohen contributed to this story.
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