Tuesday, June 9, 2026

Who's my true SELF, false self? (Alan Watts)

  • WARNING: "A little learning is a dangerous thing; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian Spring: There shallow thoughts intoxicate the brain" - the Great Alexander Pope (reddit)
O, those Greeks of Macedonia were something
This is in reference to the spring in the Pierian Mountains in Macedonia, sacred to the Muses. The first line of this couplet is often misquoted as "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing."

In Greek mythology, the "Pierian Spring" of the ancient kingdom of Macedonia was sacred to the mythological Pierides and the Muses. As the metaphorical source of knowledge of art and science, it was popularized by a couplet in Pope's 1711 poem An Essay on Criticism:

A little learning is a dang'rous thing;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
There shallow draughts [sips] intoxicate the brain,
And drinking [more medicine] largely sobers us again.
Fired at first sight with what the Muse imparts,
In fearless youth we tempt the heights of Arts;
While from the bounded level of our mind
Short views we take, nor see the lengths behind,
But, more advanced, behold with strange surprise
New distant scenes of endless science rise!
So pleased at first the towering Alps we try,
Mount o’er the vales, and seem to tread the sky;
The eternal snows appear already past,
And the first clouds and mountains seem the last;
But those attained, we tremble to survey
The growing labours of the lengthened way;
The increasing prospect tires our wandering eyes,
Hills peep o’er hills, and Alps on Alps arise!


I don't know what I'm supposed to think.
(After Skool) Alan Watts, what is the Self (Ego), True Self, False SelfHigher Self, Eternal Atman, Soul, Invisible Spirit (Prana, Pneuma), Immortal Essence or Sine Qua Non of Me, Myself, and I?
  • Wisdom Quarterly says there was "NO self."
  • WQ says no such thing. What we say is that, in an ultimate sense, "self" (ego, atta, atman, soul, spirit) is impersonal.
  • So there IS a "self"?
  • In a conventional sense, of course there is. How else would we live in a squiggly universe without a sense of our boundaries and where we end and others start?
  • Oh, so I don't have to give everything a way, join a commune, get blasted, and do whatevers my guru tells me to?
  • Ugh, no, you do not. Be yourself. Think. Practice. Buddhism only really makes sense for those who practice the Dhamma.
Joe Rogan: some "drugs" are not drugs

Been Dazed 'n Confused for so long it's not true

Wait, then, so I'm as "real" as this chair? - Yes.
EGO DEATH is a "complete loss of subjective self-identity" [1]. The term is used in various contexts, with related meanings.

The 19th-century psychologist and philosopher William James uses the synonymous term "self-surrender." Jungian psychology uses the synonymous term "psychic death," referring to a fundamental transformation of the psyche (soul) [2].

So I can be responsible with a career? - Yes.
In death and rebirth explanations, ego death is a phase of self-surrender and transition [3, 4, 5, 6] as described by mythologist Joseph Campbell in his research on the "Hero's Journey" [3].

It is a recurrent theme in world mythology and is also used as a metaphor in some strands of contemporary Western thinking [6].

What if I can't get it to stop?
In descriptions of drugs, the term is used synonymously with "ego loss" [7, 8, 1, 9] to refer to temporary loss of one's sense of having a self due to the use or abuse of drugs [10, 11, 1], be they negative (deludedhallucinogens or positive (pro-realizationentheogens.

The term was used as such by Harvard Dr. Timothy Leary and others [1] to describe the death of the ego [12] in the first phase of an LSD trip, in which a "complete transcendence" of the self [Note 1] occurs.


Did the Grateful Dead know about this?
The concept is also used in contemporary New Age spirituality and in the modern understanding of ancient Eastern religions (such as Nondualism/Advaita/Oneness) to describe a permanent loss of "attachment to a separate sense of self" [Web 1] and self-centeredness [13] (egoism, egotism, selfishness, conceit).

This kind of conception is a part of Eckhart Tolle's Buddhist-like teachings, where Ego is presented as an accumulation of thoughts and emotions, continuously identified with [and clung to], which creates the idea and feeling of being a separate entity from one's self, and only by disidentifying one's consciousness from it can one truly be free from suffering [14]. More

Life, break us to wake us? DRUNK

(T&H Inspiration & Motivation) I was disgusted, busted, and not to be trusted. I was a drunkard, an alcoholic. I wasted 33 years of my life in my head before Welsh actor Anthony Hopkins explained this

I'm going to go divinely mad: LOVE
The incessant chatter of the Self

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