Our discussion began when scientists announced finding 'brightest object in universe' (MSN) |
Brightest known object in the universe was hiding in plain sight for decades (CNN) |
Countless worlds in 31 categories or planes |
Even Dr. Steven Greer is adamant that our Earth is a literal living goddess, not a figurative one.
And the Buddha in the Jataka or "Rebirth Tales" speaks of people, himself included, as being reborn as the Sun and Moon. Buddhist cosmology ranks beings and 31 general Planes of Existence, who achieve their rebirth in those exalted worlds by the strength and profundity of their mastery of jhana (meditative absorption, which provides temporary purification). Rebirth is not random or by chance but based on karma. The karma of absorption is miraculous. Moreover, the order of the cosmos, each world-system, includes stations -- such as each world having a "Sakka" and a "Maha Brahma," with people reborn into those positions for a span of time. Sakka, the King of the Devas, is not Sakka; there are many sakkas (Indras, archangels). He is not king of all devas; there are many more devas above him.
Know and see for yourself without authorities. |
Reading Eastern and Western texts, one has to assume that the answer is both. Gaia is a being, and this very living planet full of living beings is the impersonal "Mother Nature" personified for animistic religions and astronomers.
Now science has stumbled on something so mindbogglingly bright in the universe that it can hardly fathom it and wants to leave us all in awe, just as the Buddha seemed to experience some awe at the brightness of the brahmas and supernal devas of which/whom he personally knew.
Mapping Buddhist cosmology's grand view of universe/multiverse and its world-systems |
Dhamma Aboard Evolution |
The sutra tells the long story of the arising of humanoid life on earth, arriving from space (the heavens or akasha), alighting on this planet, liking it, and becoming increasingly dense and coarsened as they enjoy sensuality here. But what if they are NOT literal personal beings coming down from space and setting foot on a rocky outpost in the sky but rather LIGHT itself congealing here, giving rise to all the life we now see in our world?
- "Abhassara [shining ones] are taken to be PHOTONS, taking ‘âbhassara’ in a literal etymological sense of ‘hither-come-shining-arrow’" (Ven. Dr. Sugunasiri, Ph.D., Dhamma Aboard Evolution).*
Mystics know what scientists don't |
For instance, we have reason to believe that the 31 Planes of Existence are literally true (unlike Bhikkhu Bodhi's suggestion that maybe they are merely psychological states) and that this can be confirmed by meditation if one develops the eight jhanas and looks for them. We have known people to do it.
Oh, great Buddha, how can we ever know? |
They came from a world where they fed on joy and flew through the sky. They came here, ate mushrooms (a delightful, savory, fungal mat or biofilm that grew freely), became sexually dimorphic, had sex, enjoyed it, and then began to engage in worse and worse karma, resulting in a change of the environment for the worse: devolution not evolution. But things are cyclical, so evolution returns later in the span of a great aeon (maha kalpa, part of India's staggering conception of geological and cosmic spans of time based on the Vedas, "Knowledge Books," and other seers such as Jainism's founder Mahavira).
Now science tells a new story, lumping unbelievable thing on top of further unbelievable thing. There are black holes. Unbelievable. This is what black holes are. Unbelievable. There are also supermassive black holes. Unbelievable. We don't see them because it's all invisible, but an accretion disk forms at the event horizon, where light and shadow blend and get pulled in by gravity too strong to resist, falling into oblivion and maybe popping out the other end where a white hole gives rise to other universes. And in the process, light is given off by things heating up... Unbelievable. But you have no choice! Believe. Obey. Bow to scientific speculations, and mock mysticism in the process.
- Eternal oblivion: "cessation of consciousness after death" does not happen because samsaric rebirth (patisandhi) asserts itself and relinks so that there is reappearance, again-becoming, renewed existence again and again...without end until awakening (bodhi).
Science: mythmaking mixed with math
If only we could merge subjective experience of Buddhist meditation with objective science. |
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Priest dressed all in white speaking gibberish |
Science: brightest thing in the universe
Christian Wolf (phys.org via MSN.com, 2/20/24); Eds., Wisdom QuarterlyThis is the brightest thing in the universe, says science. The red dot is a neighboring star. Dark Energy Camera Legacy Survey DR10/Nature Astronomy, CC BY-SA. © Provided by phys.org. |
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It's the compressed matter around the hole? |
- [How much is a "trillion"? It is 1,000 billion. How much is a "billion"? It is 1,000 million. And how much is a "million"? It is 1,000 x 1,000. So how many millions is 500 trillion?]
Here's the evidence. Check our math if you want. |
Hell [in Buddhist cosmology, there are many hells, the worst of which is this one, "The Waveless" or Avici] has been imagined as a supremely uncomfortable place, hot and hostile to bodily forms of human life.
You mean you think a black hole makes light? |
A new paper in Nature Astronomy describes a black hole surrounded by the largest and brightest disk of captive matter ever discovered. The object, called J0529-4351, is therefore also the brightest object found so far in the universe. More
*Who were the Ābhassara space beings who gave rise to human earthlings?
Wisdom Quarterly Wiki edit, Section on Spatial cosmology (31 Planes of Existence)
Trying to explain cosmology (MC Owens, SF) |
These devas have bodies that emit flashing rays of light like lightning. They are said to have similar bodies (to each other) but diverse perceptions. [Humans are said to have different bodies and different perceptions.]
Three Spheres of 31 Planes of Existence |
After the destruction of the world [world-system, galaxy, cosmos, universe], at the beginning of the vivarta-kalpa, the worlds are first populated by beings reborn from the Ābhāsvara worlds.
Ābhāsvara or Ābhassara in Pali (आभस्सर, Vietnamese Trời Quang Âm, Chinese 光音天, Tibetan འོད་གསལ་, 'od gsal, Thai อาภัสสรา or อาภาสวรา) is the plane of existence of devas "possessing splendor."
The lifespan of the Ābhāsvara devas is eight mahā kalpas (or two mahā kalpas). Eight mahā kalpas is the interval between destructions of the universe by water, which includes the Ābhāsvara worlds. The height of this world is 81,920 yojanas [roughly 573,440 miles] above the Earth. More
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