Showing posts with label skepticism. Show all posts
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Sunday, February 26, 2023

The Buddha was a nontheist, not an atheist

Venerable Nyanaponika Thera (Buddhist Publication Society, BuddhaNet edition via accesstoinsight.org); edited and expanded by Dhr. Seven, Ashley Wells, Wisdom Quarterly

Buddhism and the God-Idea
Selected texts (bps.lk)
Quite contradictory views have been expressed in Western literature on the attitude of Buddhism toward the concept of God and gods (mono- and polytheism).
  • The Buddha was not a theist.
  • The Buddha was not an atheist. (It's a mistake and an oversimplification to lump him as one for some of the things he said, explained, or taught. Just as there are living beings, there are "gods" in the sense of devas, brahma, great brahmas, and light beings of the fine material, and incorporeal beings of the immaterial planes).
  • The Buddha was certainly not agnostic.
  • In a conventional sense one might regard him as a polytheist, but in an ultimate sense this would also be incorrect.
  • He was a nontheist, a peculiar teaching that says that it does not matter to one's own awakening/enlightenment if there is or is not a "God" or "gods." Such beings are caught in the Wheel of Rebirth (samsara) and do not know Freedom (nirvana) any better than lower beings cycling through rebirths. The highborn will fall; the lowborn will rise; and the revolving goes on and on endlessly. But nirvana is an end of the suffering. Nirvana is not a rebirth, not a heaven, not nothingness (as many logical thinkers wrongly conclude), not anything that can be conceived and expressed in words, but it can be experienced.
  • We live in a conditioned world (where all things that exist depend on conditions for their existence), whereas nirvana alone is called the "unconditioned element," as it does not depend on any conditions for its existence. It exists and is free of the Three Marks of All Conditioned Existence (which is that they are impermanent, unsatisfactory, and impersonal).
  • The Buddha rejected the existence of an ultimate "creator God" who made everything, or brought beings/souls into existence, or originally brought the world into existence, or is controlling the universe or vast world.
  • The human plane (manussya loka), where we are, is much larger than this planet. We live in a 10,000-fold world system (cakkavala), and there are countless such systems. A miniscule part of it is the "human plane."
  • The whole world (loka) is incomprehensibly vast.
  • There are 31 Planes of Existence, in general, with countless worlds on each plane. In fact, there are more than 31, but for simplicity's sake, the Buddha again and again referred to these 31 general categories. Why others got left off the list is not clear. For instance, what about the "interstitial hell" between universes? What about the "hell of laughter"? What about worlds that only come into existence when there is a Buddha teaching (such as the Pure Abodes), which otherwise do not exist as they would be filled by no one? What about a particular deva or peta world brought about by one's powerful personal karma (like that mango pond from the transfer of merit of donating to the noble community or arya-sangha), an act that can rarely be repeated?
  • Most of the planes of existence the Buddha described are deva worlds, celestial heavens, but most living would seem to be crammed into lower unfortunate realms, such as the super-diversified animal plane, ghost realm, and hells, none of which are eternal but tend to last so long as to be considered "eternal" for all practical purposes, given that beings repeatedly fall back in to the downward path once they slip in and hardly ever make it out again until the world comes to an end, goes into chaos, and forms again as a new maha-kalpa or "great-aeon."
There is a path to wisdom.
From a study of the sutras or discourses of the Buddha preserved in the ancient Pali language canon, it will be seen that the idea of a personal deity, a "creator god" conceived to be eternal and omnipotent, is -- in the ultimate sense -- incompatible with the Buddha's Teachings.

On the other hand, conceptions of an impersonal godhead (Brahman or GOD) of any description, such as world-soul, and so on, are excluded by the Buddha's teachings on non-self or unsubstantiality (anatta).

Universe is big, multiverse is much bigger.
In Buddhist literature, the belief in a creator god (issara-nimmana-vada) is frequently mentioned and rejected, along with other causes wrongly brought up to explain the origin of the world -- for instance, a world-soul, time, nature, and so on.

God-belief, however, is placed in the same category as those morally destructive wrong views that deny the karmic results of deeds, assume a fortuitous origin of humans and nature, or teach absolute determinism.

These wrong views are said to be altogether pernicious, having definite bad results due to their effect on our ethical conduct here and now.

Theism, however, is regarded as a good kind of karma-teaching, insofar as it upholds the moral efficacy of deeds. So a theist (a believer in GOD, God, or Gods) who leads a moral and ethical life may, like anyone else doing so, expect a favorable rebirth -- in any of the many heavens or on the human plane.

One may possibly even be reborn in a celestial heavenly world that resembles one's own conception of it, though it cannot be of eternal duration as one may have expected. It can, nevertheless, be so long as to seem like an eternity while not actually being one.

In this illusion, karma, rebirth, and suffering are real.
If, however, fanaticism induces one to persecute those who do not share one's beliefs, this will have grave consequences for one's future destiny.

For fanatical attitudes, intolerance, and violence against others create unwholesome karma, leading to moral degeneration and to unhappy rebirths.

Although belief in God does not exclude a favorable rebirth, it is a variety of the wrong view called Eternalism, a false affirmation of permanence rooted in the craving for eternal existence. As such, it is an obstacle to final libertion from rebirth and suffering.

Among the fetters (samyojana) binding to one to continued rebirth, theism is particularly subject to those of personality-belief, attachment to rites and rituals, and craving for fine-material existence or for a "heaven of the sense sphere," as the case may be.

Buddhism is NOT a form of Hinduism, Brahmanism, or Vedanta. The Buddha rejected these.
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As an attempt at explaining the universe, its origin, and the human situation in this world, the God-idea was found entirely unconvincing by the Buddhist thinkers of old.

Through the centuries, Buddhist philosophers have formulated detailed arguments refuting the doctrine of a "creator god." It should be of interest to compare these with the ways in which Western philosophers have refuted the theological proofs of the existence of God.

But for an earnest believer, the God-idea is more than a mere device for explaining external facts like the origin of the world.

For that person it is an object of faith that can bestow a strong feeling of certainty, not only as to God's existence "somewhere out there," but as to God's consoling presence and closeness.

This feeling of certainty requires close scrutiny. Such scrutiny will reveal that in most cases the God-idea is only the devotee's projection of an ideal — generally a noble one — and of a fervent wish and deeply felt need to believe.

These projections are largely conditioned by external influences, such as childhood training, early impressions, religious education, tradition, and social environment (the society we are born into).

Charged with a very strong emotional emphasis, brought to life by our powerful human capacity for image-formation, visualization, and the creation of myth, they then come to be identified with the images and concepts of whatever religion the devotee is told to or chooses to follow.

In the case of many of the most sincere believers, a searching analysis would show that their "God-experience" has no more specific content than this.

Yet the range and significance of God-belief and God-experience are not fully exhausted by the preceding remarks.

The Truth is much stranger than fiction.
The lives and writings of the mystics of all great religions bear witness to religious experiences of great intensity, in which considerable changes are affected in the quality and scope of consciousness thereafter.

Profound absorption in meditation or prayer can bring about a deepening and widening, a brightening and intensifying of consciousness, accompanied by a transporting feeling of rapture and unparalleled bliss.

The contrast between these expanded states and normal conscious awareness is so great that the mystic believes this experience to be a manifestation of the divine. And given the contrast, this assumption is quite understandable.

Mystical experiences are also characterized by a marked reduction or temporary exclusion of the multiplicity of sense-perceptions and restless thoughts, and this relative unification of mind is then interpreted as a union or communion with "the One God."

Trying to understand all of these deeply moving impressions and spontaneous interpretations will usually cause the mystic to identify or interpret through the lens of a particular theology.

It is interesting to note, however, that the attempts of most great Western mystics to relate their mystical experiences to the official dogmas of their respective churches often resulted in teachings that were often looked upon askance by the orthodox, if not considered downright heretical. More

Saturday, February 25, 2023

Why the God of the Bible is evil or untrue


Why the God of the Bible [if real would be] evil
(Planet Curious) Feb. 10, 2023. Should the God described in the Christian Bible and Abrahamic scriptures be considered a good and moral character? Dan Barker, Lawrence Krauss, skeptic Michael Shermer argue "no."

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Buddhism and the God-Idea
Ven. Nyanaponika Thera (BuddhaNet ed. via accesstoinsight.org) edited and expanded by Dhr. Seven, Ashley Wells, Wisdom Quarterly
Selected texts (bps.lk)
Quite contradictory views have been expressed in Western literature on the attitude of Buddhism toward the concept of God and gods (mono- and polytheism).
  • The Buddha was not a theist.
  • The Buddha was not an atheist. (It's a mistake and an oversimplification to lump him as one for some of the things he said, explained, or taught. Just as there are living beings, there are "gods" in the sense of devas, brahma, great brahmas, and light beings of the fine material, and incorporeal beings of the immaterial planes).
  • The Buddha was certainly not agnostic.
  • In a conventional sense one might regard him as a polytheist, but in an ultimate sense this would also be incorrect.
  • He was a nontheist, a peculiar teaching that says that it does not matter to one's own awakening/enlightenment if there is or is not a "God" or "gods." Such beings are caught in the Wheel of Rebirth (samsara) and do not know Freedom (nirvana) any better than lower beings cycling through rebirths. The highborn will fall; the lowborn will rise; and the revolving goes on and on endlessly. But nirvana is an end of the suffering. Nirvana is not a rebirth, not a heaven, not nothingness (as many logical thinkers wrongly conclude), not anything that can be conceived and expressed in words, but it can be experienced. CONTINUED

Monday, February 26, 2018

Meditation for people who can't "meditate"

Ananda M., Jen B. (Dharma Meditation Initiative), Ashley Wells (ed.), Wisdom Quarterly
Ever try to meditate? Meditation is not about trying. Ever do meditation? Meditation is not about doing.

Ever make meditation happen? No one can make it happen, and no one ever will. But people meditate. How?

Plants grow themselves. Gardeners only help.
Gardeners garden, and by gardening, plants grow. But no gardener has ever made a plant grow. Gardening is not about MAKING a plant grow.

It is about cultivating suitable conditions (as well as removing obstacles) so that it grows all by itself. Meditation is just this way! It happens. And all our trying, doing, making, forcing...get in the way. Let go instead.

With the cultivation techniques we'll learn, everyone who attends is GUARANTEED to enter a meditative state -- no effort required. In fact, effort will get in the way. Let go. Vegan refreshments and tangy green tea kombucha served.
 
Dharma Meditation Initiative - MARC - PasaDharma - Disclosure - Dharma Punx

Wednesday, February 11, 2015

Ask a Ninja: How to Meditate: Doubt

Seth Auberon, Dhr. Seven, Amber Larson, Wisdom QuarterlyVen. Nyanaponika, Five Hindrances and Their Conquest: Selected Texts from the Pali Canon and Commentaries; Faith
Think. There are hindrances to meditation. Overcome them and be a ninja.
Do we need more doubt or more confidence? Think. Decide. Then do. (tonycrabbe)

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"This year, rise above it"! (AB)
This is Part VI of a seven-part series (see Part V) on overcoming the Five Hindrances, culminating with what to do as an enlightened Meditation Ninja. Reaching enlightenment may take anywhere from seven days to seven years, according to the Four Foundations of Mindfulness Sutra. But it depends on effort, sustained-ease, and consistency. Over-effort is something to be overcome by calm; under-effort is overcome by energy: balanced-effort is the goal. There is much more to be gained by practicing a little every day rather than a lot on Sunday and none at all the rest of the week: Consistency over time is the tortoise's secret, leaving the hare far behind. Everything can wait, but the search for enlightenment cannot wait.

5. Doubt
A. Nourishing of Doubt
There are things giving rise to skeptical doubt. Frequently giving unwise attention to them is nourishing the arising of doubt that has not yet arisen and the increase and strengthening of doubt that has already arisen. — SN 46:51

B. Denourishing of Doubt
Stop thinking and DO. (motorcitymoxie.com)
There are things that are wholesome or unwholesome, blameless or blameworthy, noble or low, and (other) contrasts of dark and bright. Frequently giving wise attention to them is the denourishing of the arising of doubt that has not yet arisen and the increase and strengthening of doubt that has already arisen.
 
Of the six things conducive to the abandonment of doubt, the first three and the last two are identical with those given for restlessness and remorse. But the fourth runs as follows:
 
Firm conviction (confidence, saddha) concerning the Buddha, Dharma, and [Noble] Sangha -- that is, the Teacher, the Teaching, and the successfully Taught.
 
In addition, the following are helpful in conquering skeptical doubt:
The sky's going out! Soon all will be dark.
"The first [Fine Material Form Sphere] jhana or 'meditative absorption' is free of five things (i.e., the Five Mental Hindrances). And five opposite things are present (i.e., the Five Factors of Absorption or jhāna-anga).
 
Whenever a meditator enters the first absorption, there have vanished: sensuous desire, ill-will, tiredness-and-boredom [sloth and torpor], restlessness-and-worry, skeptical doubt.
 
What is present instead are: initial application [of attention] (vitakka), sustained attention (vicāra), rapture (pīti), happiness (sukha), and concentration (samādhi or ekagata, unification of mind, one-pointedness).
 
In the second absorption there are present: rapture, joy, and concentration; in the third: joy and concentration; in the fourth: equanimity (upekkhā) and concentration" (Path of Purification, Vis.M. IV).

NOTE: the next four absorptions of the Immaterial or Formless Sphere (jhanas 5 through 8) still belong, properly speaking, to the fourth absorption as they possess the same two constituents. The fourth Fine-Material Sphere absorption is also the base or starting point (pādaka-jhāna) for the attaining of the higher spiritual powers (abhiññā), which should be avoided as a dangerous distraction.
C. Simile
Then all was dark; I didn't know what to do.
If there is a pot of water that is turbid, stirred up and muddy, and this pot is in a dark place, then a person with a normal faculty of vision cannot properly recognize and see the image of one's own face. In the same way, when one's mind is possessed by doubt, overpowered by doubt, then one cannot properly see any escape from doubt that has arisen. Then one does not see one's own welfare, nor that of another, nor that of both. And teachings memorized long ago do not come to mind, let alone those not memorized. — SN 46:55

Monday, October 4, 2010

Nirvana: The Story of the Turtle and the Fish



How to describe nirvana when nothing compares?
Bhikkhu Bodhi As It Is (edited by Wisdom Quarterly)
The following story illustrates the error of regarding nirvana as "nothingness" when it is described by saying what it is not.

There was once a turtle who lived in a lake with a group of fish. One day the turtle went for a walk on dry land. He was away from the lake for a few weeks. When he returned he saw the fish.

They greeted him and asked: "Hello! How are you, Mr. Turtle? We haven't seen you for weeks. Where have you been?"

The turtle answered, "I was up on dry land, spending time on dry land."

The fish looked puzzled and said, "Up on dry land? What are you talking about? What is this dry land?"


The turtle paused as he tried to think of a way to explain something that had no parallels to their ordinary underwater world.

The fish tried to help by prompting the turtle, "Is it wet?"

The turtle answered, "No, it's not wet."

The fish continued, "Is it cool and refreshing?"

"No, it's not cool and refreshing."

"Does it have waves and ripples?"

"No, it doesn't have waves and ripples."

Worried, they finally asked, "Well, can you swim in it?"

"No you can't swim in it," the turtle had to admit.

Naturally, the fish reasoned: "It's not wet, not cool, not wavy, and you can’t swim in it? Well then this 'dry land' of yours must be complete nothingness, either a fairytale or annihilation."

"That may be, that may be" the turtle smiled as he left for another walk on dry land.

THE MANTRA
Wisdom Quarterly
Ineffable nirvana gets poetic treatment -- at least the attainment of it does -- in a Sanskrit mantra epitomizing the Heart Sutra: Gate, gate, paragate, parasamgate, bodhi, swaha!

Gone, gone,
Gone beyond,
Gone altogether beyond,
O, what an awakening,
So it is!