Jade Emperor out Buddha'd the Buddha?

• The Jade Emperor seems to be the Sakka (King of the Devas, Sakra, Indra) of East Asia, made famous in the Pali canon by having a whole section of texts dedicated to him: Sakka, King of the Devas, ruler of the Celestial World of the Thirty-Three (Tavatimsa)

Before God said, 'Let there be light'?

How to fly and land a UFO (vimana)

Why do you want to fly our ships or what the ancients called vimanas in Sanskrit?

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How did USAF pilots learn to fly alien spaceships?

(Gaia) Why would ETs leave (abandon, deposit, place) an advanced vimana craft on Earth? Could it be an invitation to connect with an ancient civilization on the moon [or inside our Hollow Earth]?

Telepathy is a kind of PSI, remote mind control. 

Retired counterintelligence agent Richard Doty reveals details of a UFO crash named Polyzena, which led to the highly classified operation, Sapphire Sele. The mission aimed to reverse-engineer the craft, build a replica, and establish a moon base.

After multiple failed attempts, the U.S. military discovered they could only fly the ship telepathically.

• Unidentified Flying Object o Unknown Flying Object: Vimana: Aeronavi dal mondo antico

How to land (obtain) a vimana

What do we know about heavenly mansion or vimanavatthu stories?

What is a vimana (the UFOs of India)?

Vox clamantis: Il mistero dei Vimana

Vimāna are mythological flying ships, mansions, palaces, or chariots described in Vedic, Hindu, Buddhist, and Jain texts as well as in Sanskrit epics. The "Pushpaka Vimana" of Ravana (who took it from Kubera before Rama returned it to Kubera) is the most quoted example of a vimana. These are the "chariots of the gods," where the "gods" are the devas. But a whole section of Buddhist sacred texts is referred to as "Vimana Stories" or Vimanavatthu. These celestial platforms, transports, sky-cities, and spaceships are also mentioned in sacred Jain texts. More

Alaska Pyramid is ET technology

The Anunnaki Alaskan Pyramid is underground and MASSIVE

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• Gaia, March 24, 2025; Pfc. Sandoval, Seth Auberon, Dhr. Seven, Pat Macpherson (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly

Listen ETs, music on Mozart's birthday

Classical composer Ludwig van Beethoven was full of heavy metal (ZME Science)

Yes, this is good stuff. I will tell Xenon for sure.

(Virtuosity) Who's the greater musical genius, Beethoven or Mozart? The Fifth Symphony is hard to beat, dramatic as it is, but "Rondo Alla Turca" is a Mozart masterpiece that just might. Of course, it's dark apples to bright oranges.

Was it a huMAN invention or an EThereal inspiration? It's Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's birthday today, Dec. 17th, and we are listening to the exquisite Turkish March.

Wolf-Am-Mo was a classical musician and composer who had no need of shooting wolves as he could tame any savage beast with just his music. His piano compositions are breathtaking. otherworldly, too good for just this planet. The whole solar system should be able to hear him.

In fact, he is so good that this planet takes him for granted and might forget him. Not so Los Angeles, which has KUSC.org (91.5 FM) to remind us on the air and online, thanks to the generous support of special philanthropists and ordinary donors to the radio station.

• Mozart via Rob Radley, March 28, 2022; text and birthday wishes from Wisdom Quarterly

Siccas Guitars (sicccasguitar.com/ohguitar.com)

Fazıl Say: Turkish March (Türk Marşı)

(Fazıl Say) Nov. 11, 2015: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's Piano Sonata No. 11 in A-Major, K.331 III. Alla Turca – Allegretto. The last movement, Alla Turca, popularly known as the "Turkish March," is often heard on its own and is one of Mozart's best-known piano pieces.

Mozart himself titled the rondo "Alla Turca." It imitates the sound of Turkish Janissary bands, the music of which was much in vogue at that time.

Various other works of the time imitate this Turkish style, including Mozart's own opera Die Entführung aus dem Serail.

In Mozart's time, the last movement was sometimes performed on pianos built with a "Turkish stop," allowing it to be embellished with extra percussion effects.

The form of the rondo is A-B-C-D-E-C-A-B-C-coda, with each section (except the coda) being repeated twice.

• Recorded during rehearsal at Enka Kültür Sanat. Video by Mustafa Toygun Özdemir

Composing is always a form of improvisation -- with ideas, with musical particles, with imaginary shapes -- and it is in this sense that the artistic itinerary and the worldview of the Turkish composer and pianist Fazıl Say should be understood.

For it was from the free form with which he became familiar in the course of his piano lessons with the Cortot pupil Mithat Fenmen that he developed an aesthetic outlook that constitutes the core of his self-conception as a composer.

Fazıl Say has been touching audiences and critics alike for more than 25 years in a way that has become rare in the increasingly materialistic and elaborately organized classical music world. Concerts with this artist are something else. They are more direct, more open, more exciting. In short, they go straight to the heart because the same may be said of his compositions.

(But the real question is, Will the extraterrestrials like it? It might not make a bit of the difference to them, so we'd better stick with playing an analog (rather than digital) version of the original for them or as close as we humanly come to it, which will almost certainly mean finding some young Asian prodigy, preferably a child who just has a knack for the song and no understanding of the context.)

Do they eat meat in heaven? (comedy)

We've evolved in space, become compassionate and wise. Please, come join the Federation.

Be kind and be reborn above.

Who are the celestials (our space brothers and sisters), known as the akasha ("space") devas ("shining ones")? We can think of them as heavenly (space world) messengers, the "angels" or beautiful gandharvas.

Imagine they come down in a vimana (spaceship), offer a ride to their world, promising Elysian fields, longevity, beauty, five sense strand pleasures beyond the human world only to find out you eat meat -- slaughtered animal flesh of babies.

It may not go down well. The Vedas, the ancient "Knowledge Books" of proto-India, the Indus Valley Civilization, speak of the benefits of a vegetarian diet. All Hinduism, keeping to the principle of ahimsa or "non-harming," advocate a healthy plant-based diet of delicious nutrients.

• Where are these angelic devis (female devas) from? A world in the Realm of the Four Great Sky Rulers
• Thinking critically about UFOs: Are they really piloted by ETs? (ancient-origins.net)
• The Buddha explained Earth and space: Buddhist cosmology

The angry, crazy Sumerian God of the Bible

The Bible speaks of a vegan Garden of Eden, but how many Christians today consider that? There are the Seventh Day Adventists and others who have made contact.

Many Jews read the Book and see a message of peace in it, though most only take calls for genocide from the Demiurge Yahweh (YHWH), not the real God the Christ was talking about but the God of the Old Testament.

I'm not all in people's head! I'm real!

Christians refuse to question, fearing condemnation for disobedience. They eat the flesh of the dead as if it were communion, a feast of blood and body (wine and bread), equating the archaic word "meat" and "food." Milk and honey are more delicious, but even these, according to Dr. Joel Wallach, refer to white slosh of mineral rich water (coming down from glacial crush of rock minerals) and dewy nectar from swollen fruits and flowers.

In the halls of heaven... Which heaven? It looks like the 4 Sky-Gods or the World of the 33

Halls of Valhalla: Valkyries carry war dead past the god Heimdallr (Lorenz Frolich, 1906)

• VIDEO: Wily Films, Nov. 1, 2021; TEXT: Amber Larson, Dhr. Seven, Ananda (Dharma Buddhist Meditation), Wisdom Quarterly

US woman regularly meets with ET aliens

Coast to Coast, 8/29/23; Pat Macpherson, Seth Auberon, Dhr. Seven (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly

Are more coming? Is that one of their motherships? - Um, I think they want to breed again.

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Bonnie V. Meyer

Bonnie V. Meyer (thelightside.org) considered herself an ordinary all-American earthling human Christian person, living a normal life -- until ETs in UFOs interrupted that life.

After attempting to debunk the mysterious phenomena around her, she directly experienced ALIEN CONTACT.

She has spent her life ever since investigating space aliens and UFOs (UAPs), attending conferences, and channeling.

• E.A.R.S: Evidence of Alien contact Revealed in Scripture
• Fond du lac Reporter article (Lightside UFO Study Group)
• Read Meyers' written material FREE online (Google Books)

There are now many extraterrestrial alien conferences throughout the US (thealiencon.com)

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Abducted: DNA hybridization?

She discusses various types of extraterrestrial aliens and what they want from earthling humans.

Different alien beings have visited our planet on and off, she said, for a very long time.

"There is a group that I worked with, and they are here keeping an eye on the planet because they know we're in trouble," she claims, adding that they are part of the "Love and Light System" and visit where they are needed.

Meyer live at West Bend Books

This tattooed gent is 100% genetically human.

However, due to a "law" or rule of the galaxy or universe or this dimension, they do not directly interfere with native species visited.

"I was at a meeting, and there were 16 different types of aliens [in attendance]," she reveals, and they were noting that if things get bad, there could be a possible evacuation of the planet and collection of plant and animal specimens [for genetic preservation].

Meyer is describing an Avian (Garuda, Suparna) in Indian mythology/Buddhist cosmology.

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Garuda (Hyougushi/Delhi)

While some of the space aliens are human in appearance, one of her alien [avian] contacts does not look human at all: He is blue, over 7 feet tall, has a beak like an eagle, a thin body, long neck and arms, and talons rather than fingers.

"He is the captain of a large [mother-] ship that is about the size of Chicago, and it's outside of our atmosphere. It can't come in as it's too large, and it's a place where many aliens come, and they have meetings there," she discloses on this episode of Coast to Coast AM last night.

This hideous plastic surgery disaster is Madonna

Ms. Meyer says that extraterrestrial aliens have different agendas, and we would perceive some as beneficial and others as negative. There are good and bad one in every group, just as humans have good and bad members. Not all Greys and Reptilians are bad, not all Avians and Humans are good.

• AUDIO: Alien Contacts | Coast to Coast AM (8/29/23)

Space alien ET have been visiting earth for millennia as ancient cave paintings show.

What do the statues in the East depict but our avian (winged deva) ET alien visitors?

Does anybody wonder whatever happened to Georgie "The Hair" Tsoukalos? (He's History)

Orchid facts. A flower from heaven (sutra)

Mediafeed; Hellmuth Hecker; Kelly Ani, Dhr. Seven (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly

Vanilla seed pods -- a flavor miracle -- come from Mexico and Guatemala (msn.com).

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Things most don’t know about orchids

Flowers of Happiness Will Bloom

Anyone who’s ever cared for orchids knows that they’re pretty special.

From their practically microscopic seeds, to their tasty seed pods, to their worldwide range, these flowering beauties are nothing short of amazing.

They seem more of a celestial item -- like the mandarava (flame tree, coral tree, erythrina) bloom in Buddhist texts (e.g., Maha Kassapa: Father of the Sangha) -- than a terrestrial one. Here are a few things most probably didn’t know about them:

1. They are the largest family of flowering plants

By some estimates, Orchidacea is the largest family of flowering plants, with at least 25,000 to 30,000 species — not including the 100,000 hybrids and cultivars created by horticulturalists that aren’t naturally occurring. Of all flowering plant species on Earth, orchids make up about 10%. More

• [What about the 32,000 species of Asteraceae?]
• New flower species found in Japan: glass orchid
• Orchid Facts | Symbol | Petal Talk (1800flowers)

After the Buddha's passing: A flower from heaven

Hellmuth Hecker, Maha Kassapa: Father of the Sangha, Chp. 8 (DN 16), revised and enlarged translation from German by Nyanaponika Thera (edited by Wisdom Quarterly)

Devas and human beings loved to give the Buddha the gift of fragrant flowers.

Wildflowers are neon signs doing everything they can to attract pollinators like bees.

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Maha Kassap meets an ajivika naked ascetic

One of the Buddha's main disciples, Maha Kassapa, played a leading role in the Monastic Community (Sangha) after the Buddha passed. Only two of the five most prominent disciples were present, the brothers Ananda and Anuruddha. Sariputta and Maha Moggallana had already passed into bliss.

Maha Kassapa, with a large company of wandering ascetics, was traveling on the main road from Pava to Kusinara to see the Buddha. He veered and sat down under a tree to rest. Just then a naked ascetic passed by with a mandarava flower in his hand, which is said to grow only in a celestial (deva) world.

When Maha Kassapa saw it, he knew something unusual must have happened for such a flower to be found on earth.

He asked the naked ascetic whether he had heard any news about the Buddha, and the naked ascetic affirmed that he had, saying: "The recluse Gautama passed into nirvana a week ago. I picked up this mandarava flower from the place of cremation."

It looks like a celestial flower from the deva realm, the flame tree (Erythrina sandwicensis)

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I'm not "naked." I'm a "sky-clad" sadhu.

Among the monastics who heard the news, only those who were arhats [fully enlightened] like Maha Kassapa could remain calm, cool, and collected.

The others who were not yet liberated from the passions and defilements lamented and wept: "Too soon has the Blessed One passed into nirvana! Too soon has the Eye of the World vanished from our sight!"

Flame tree flamboyant (Tropical Plantae)

There was one [crochety] monk named Subhadda who had ordained in his old age. He addressed the others: "Enough, friends! Do not grieve! Do not lament! We are well rid of that Great Ascetic. We have been troubled by his telling us, 'This is befitting, that is not befitting.' Now we can do what we like, and we won't have to do what we do not like!"

[This led Maha Kassapa to realize the need for a great Buddhist council to formalize the Teachings (Dharma) of the Buddha. In that sense, Maha Kassapa became the founder of "Buddhism," taking what he had learned from the Buddha, what he knew about monasticism, society, and Brahmins to give us a new -ism. Prior to that Buddhism was not a religion but a path of practice to enlightenment. It was soon to become a formal structure.]

Until then it had not been possible to set the funeral pyre alight as the devas [celestial "shining ones"] present wanted to wait until Venerable Maha Kassapa came and paid his respects to the remains of the Buddha. When he arrived at the place of cremation, he reverently walked twice around the pyre with clasped hands then, with bowed head, paid his respects at the feet of the Tathagata (the Buddha).

Relics (sarira) are an arhat's cremation remains.

When his company of monastics did likewise, the pyre, it is said, burst into flames by itself. Hardly had the bodily remains of the Tathagata been cremated when there arose a conflict about the distribution of the relics (sarira) among the laypeople assembled and those who had sent messengers later.

The distribution was settled by the Brahmin Dona, who divided the relics into eight portions and distributed them among. He took the vessel in which the relics had been.

There's a reserve in Los Angeles County for spring wildflowers (weather.com)

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Maha Kassapa brought his share of the relics to the current king of Magadha, Ajatasattu. Having done so, he turned his thoughts to the preservation of the Buddha's spiritual heritage, the Teachings (Dharma) and the Disciplinary Code (Vinaya).

The necessity to do so was demonstrated to him by Subhadda's challenge of the discipline, advocating moral laxity. Maha Kassapa took this as a warning. If that attitude were to spread, it would lead to the decline and ruin of both the Monastic Community and the Teaching.

To prevent this, Maha Kassapa proposed holding a council by which the Dharma and Discipline could be reliably established and secured. He turned to the monastics gathered at Rajagaha (modern Rajgir, India). They agreed and at their request Maha Kassapa selected 500 [lit. "a large number" not actually 500] members, all but one of whom were fully enlightened (arhats). More

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• Missing Link: The remains of Noah’s Ark may have finally been discovered
• Scientists "discover" continent that had been missing for 375 years

SUTRA: Supermoon over Seattle (video)

British astrophotographer Dawid Glawdzin (BBC.com); Nateinthewild (imgur.com); Ven. Piyadassi (trans.), Candima Sutta (Sn 2.9); Dhr. Seven, Pat Macpherson (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly

For this timelapse video of the April 2020 supermoon, one photo was taken every five seconds for 640 total photos over a two hour period, using a Sony a7R iii, 200mm, f5.6. This is how Nate makes timelapse videos and show his work on Instagram.com/nateinthewild. This is the best time for the Buddhist lunar observance the Buddha called the uposatha.

• PHOTOS: Full Awakening Pink Supermoon (BBC)

Chandima Sutra: The Moon Deity's Prayer for Protection

Translated by Dhr. Seven based on Piyadassi Thera translation (Sn 2.9), Wisdom Quarterly

Thus have I heard. On one occasion the Blessed One [the Buddha] was living near Savatthi, at Jetavana in the multi-millionaire Anathpindika's monastery.

At that time Candima (Canda, Candimasa, Chandra), the moon deity, was seized by Rahu, the titan (asura) chieftain. Then, calling to mind the Blessed One, Candima, the moon deity, recited this stanza:

i. "O Buddha, heroic and wholly free of wrongdoing, whom I adore, I have fallen into distress! I go to you for guidance!"

Thereupon the Blessed One addressed this stanza to Rahu, the titan chieftain, on behalf of Candima:

The planet Rahu seizes Sun and Moon in eclipses.

ii. "O Rahu, Candima has gone for guidance to the Tathagata [the Buddha, One Arrived at Suchness], the Wayfarer. Release Candima! The buddhas radiate compassion toward the world (of beings)."

Then Rahu, the titan chieftain, released Candima, the moon deity, and immediately came into the presence of Vepacitta, [another] titan chieftain, and stood beside him trembling with fear his hair standing on end. Vepacitta addressed Rahu in this stanza:

iii. "Why, Rahu, did you suddenly release Candima?

Why have you come trembling?

Why are you standing here terrified?"

"I have been spoken to by the Buddha in a stanza

(requesting me to release Candima).

If I had not released Candima

my head would have split into seven pieces.

While I yet lived, I would have had no happiness.

(Therefore, I released Candima)."

• See also The Sun Deity's Prayer for Protection (SN 2.10)

Sumerian view of solar system (video)

Viper TV - Studios, Sept. 28, 2019; Pat Macpherson, Crystal Q. (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly

Sumerians tell a very different version than human historians. Their words are inexplicable. Researchers and archaeologists are fascinated by the Sumerians and their accounts of, for example, space and the composition of our solar system. Yet, their is a huge discrepancy in what Sumerian accounts tell us and what today's historians interpret, but why?

Heavenly messengers: a Trip to HELL (video)

Amber Larson, Dhr. Seven, Ashley Wells (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly, Devaduta Sutra, "The Deva Messengers" (MN 130) Ven. Thanissaro/Geoffrey DeGraff (trans.); Richard + Danny Elfman; Slayer

WARNING: Beheading! Breasts! Weird underworld (6th dimension) beneath Venice, CA from the unrated comic cult classic "Forbidden Zone" featuring The Mystic Knights of the Oingo Boingo.

In the old European Christian imagination the warden in hell, Satan, tortures beings while being tortured himself: Les Très Riches Heures du duc de Berry, by the Limbourg brothers (Wiki).

Craving motivates Mara the Evil One.

Thus have I heard. On one occasion the Blessed One [the Buddha] was staying near Sāvatthī in Jeta's Grove, Anathapindika's monastery. There he addressed the monastics, "Meditators!"
 

"Yes, venerable sir," the monastics responded.
 
The Blessed One said, "Meditators, it is as if there were two households with doors, and a person with good eyesight, standing there between them, were to see people entering and leaving a house, wandering out and about.

"In the same way, I see -- by means of the divine eye, purified and surpassing the human -- beings passing away and re-appearing. I discern how they are inferior and superior, beautiful and ugly, fortunate and unfortunate in accordance with their karma (previous and present actions):

"O, how these beings -- who were endowed with good conduct of body, speech, and mind, who did not revile noble ones (those who have gained any of the stages of enlightenment), who held right views and undertook actions under the influence of right views -- with the breakup of the body, after death, have reappeared in a fortunate destination, even the heavenly realm (sagga, celestial-deva worlds).

"Or how these beings -- who were endowed with bad conduct of body, speech, and mind, who reviled noble ones, held wrong views and undertook actions under the influence of wrong views -- with the breakup of the body, after death, have reappeared in the realm of hungry ghosts (peta loka).

"Or how these beings -- who were endowed with bad conduct of body, speech, and mind, who reviled noble ones, held wrong views and undertook actions under the influence of wrong views -- with the breakup of the body, after death, have reappeared in the animal world.

Hell: Hortus deliciarum (Herrad of Landsberg, 1180)

"Or how these beings -- who were endowed with bad conduct of body, speech, mind, who reviled noble ones, held wrong views and undertook actions under the influence of wrong views -- with the breakup of the body, after death, have reappeared in a plane of deprivation, an unfortunate destination, a lower realm, even in [one of the] hells."
 
"Then the hell-wardens, seizing (such a being) by the arms, present that person to King Yama [the sympathetic Buddhist "Judge" of the Dead]:

"'This is a person, your majesty, with no respect for mother, no respect for father [Note 1], no reverence for wandering ascetics, no reverence for temple priests [shamans and Brahmins], no honor for the leaders of one's clan. Let your majesty decree a punishment.'

• NOTE 1: The word "no respect for father" (apetteyyo) does not appear in the Thai edition, but it does appear in the Sri Lankan, Burmese, and British Pali Text Society editions. 

WARNING: Topless breasts, electrified balloon torture (almost), and cursing! What must "hell" be like? Is it like "The Queen's Revenge" on Frenchy from "Forbidden Zone"?

"Then King Yama interviews and interrogates and castigates the person regarding the first deva [angelic] messenger:

"'Good person, did you not see the first deva messenger that has appeared among human beings [on the human plane, which means all of the manussya world]?'
 
"'I did not, your honor,' one says.
 
Then King Yama says, 'Good person, did you not see among human beings a tender baby boy lying prone in its own urine and excrement?'

"'I did, your honor,' one says.
 
Then King Yama says, 'Good person, did not the thought occur to you who are observant and mature: "I, too, am subject to rebirth and have not gotten beyond rebirth. I had better do good with body, speech, and mind"?'
 
"'I could not, your honor. I was heedless, your honor.'

Then King Yama says, 'Good person, through heedlessness you did not do what is good with body, speech, or mind. And of course, good person, they will deal with you in accordance with your heedlessness. For that harmful karma [2] of yours was neither done by your mother, nor done by your father, nor by your brother, nor by your sister, nor by your friends and companions, nor by your kinsfolk and relatives, nor done by the devas.

• NOTE 2: The Pali language uses the word kamma (Sanskrit and English karma) in the singular here, as if it were an uncountable noun (like "water" or "information"). In other words, though singular in form, it could mean any number of actions. Because English does not have an equivalent uncountable noun for action, [it is here untranslated as karma, "actions," which is both singular plural].

WARNING: Sex and violence, sort of! (Creator Richard Elfman) "Forbidden Zone 2" the sequel wants to be funded so it can be remade and go beyond cult status (forbiddenzone2.com).

"'That unwholesome karma was done by you yourself, and you yourself will experience the results.'
 
"Then, having interviewed and interrogated and castigated the person regarding the first deva messenger, King Yama continues regarding the second:

'Good person, did you not see the second deva messenger that has appeared among human beings?'
 
"'I did not, your honor,' one says.
 
"Then King Yama says, 'Good person, did you not see among human beings a woman or man 80, 90, 100 years old -- aged, roof-rafter crooked, bent over, supported by cane, trembling with palsy, miserable, broken-toothed, gray-haired, scanty-haired, or bald, wrinkled, with limbs all blotchy?'

"'I did, your honor,' one says.
 
"Then King Yama says, 'Good person, did the thought not occur to you who are observant and mature: "I, too, am subject to aging, have not gotten beyond aging. I had better do good with body, speech, or mind"?'
 
"'I could not, your honor. I was heedless, your honor.'
 
"Then King Yama says, 'Good person, through heedlessness you did not do what is good with body, speech, or mind. And of course, good person, they will deal with you in accordance with your heedlessness. For that harmful karma [those intended actions] of yours was neither done by your mother, father, brother, sister, friends and companions, kinsmen and relatives, nor done by the devas. That unwholesome action was done by you yourself, and you yourself will experience the results.'
 
"Then, having interviewed and interrogated and castigated the person regarding the second deva messenger, King Yama questions one regarding the third:

"'Good person, did you not see the third deva messenger that has appeared among human beings?'
 
"'I did not, your honor,' one says.
 
"Then King Yama says, 'Good person, did you not see among human beings a woman or man diseased, in pain, severely ill, lying in his or her own urine and excrement, lifted up by others, laid down by others?'

"'I did, your honor,' one says.

"Then King Yama says, 'Good person, did not the thought occur to you who are observant and mature: "I, too, am subject to illness, have not gotten beyond illness. I had better do good with body, speech, or mind"?'
 
"'I could not, your honor. I was heedless, your honor.'
 
"Then King Yama says, 'Good person, through heedlessness you did not do what is good with body, speech, or mind. And of course, good person, they will deal with you in accordance with your heedlessness. For that harmful karma of yours was neither done by your mother...your friends and companions...nor done by the devas.

"'That unwholesome action was done by you yourself, and you yourself will experience the results.'

"Then...regarding the third deva messenger, King Yama interviews and interrogates and castigates one regarding the fourth:

"'Good person, did you not you see the fourth deva messenger that has appeared among human beings?'
 
"'I did not, your honor,' one says.

Human tortures

Evil deeds done dirt cheap ripen later (UC).

"Then King Yama says, 'Good person, did you not see among human beings rulers -- catching a thief, a criminal -- having him tortured in many ways:

• flogging him with whips,
• beating him with canes,
• beating him with clubs;
• cutting off his hands,
• cutting off his feet,
• cutting off his hands and feet;
• cutting off his ears,
• cutting off his nose,
• cutting off his ears and nose;
• subjecting him to [these forms of medieval torture:] the 'porridge pot,'
• the 'polished-shell shave,'
• the 'Rāhu's mouth,'
• the 'flaming garland,'
• the 'blazing hand,'
• the 'grass-duty (ascetic),'
• the 'bark-dress (ascetic),'
• the 'burning antelope,'
• the 'meat hooks,'
• the 'coin-gouging,'
• the 'lye pickling,'
• the 'pivot on a stake,'
• the 'rolled-up bed';
• having him splashed with boiling oil,
• devoured by dogs,
• impaled alive on a stake; or
• cutting off his head with a sword?' 

Those who support and approve harmful actions engage in harmful mental action (karma).

 
"'I did, your honor,' one says.
 
"Then King Yama says, 'Good person, did not the thought occur to you who are observant and mature: "It seems that those who do harmful actions are tortured in these many ways in the here and now. How much more in the hereafter? I had better do good with body, speech, and mind"?'
 
"'I could not, your honor. I was heedless, your honor.'
 
"Then King Yama says, 'Good person, through heedlessness you did not do what is good with body, speech, or mind. And of course, good person, they will deal with you in accordance with your heedlessness.

"'For that unwholesome action of yours was neither done by your mother...nor by the devas. That unwholesome karma was done by you yourself, and you yourself will experience the results.'
 
"Then, having...regarding the fourth deva messenger, King Yama interviews and interrogates and castigates one regarding the fifth:

"'Good person, did you not see the fifth deva messenger that has appeared among human beings?'
 
"'I did not, your honor,' one says.
 
"Then King Yama says, 'Good person, did you not see among human beings a woman or man, one day, two days, or three days dead: bloated, blue, oozing?'
 
"'I did, your honor,' one says.
 
"Then King Yama says, 'Good person, did the thought not occur to you who are observant and mature: "I, too, am subject to death, have not gotten beyond death. I had better do good with body, speech, and mind"?'
 
"'I could not, your honor. I was heedless, your honor.'
 
"Then King Yama says, 'Good person, through heedlessness you did not do what is good with body, speech, or mind. And of course, good person, they will deal with you in accordance with your heedlessness. For that harmful karma of yours was neither done by your mother, nor your father...nor by the devas.

"'That unwholesome action was done by you yourself, and you yourself will experience the results.'
 
"Then, having interviewed and interrogated and castigated the person regarding the fifth deva messenger, King Yama falls silent [3].

• NOTE 3: In Asian Buddhist kingdoms, there was a custom that when a king was sentencing a criminal to death or to be tortured, he would not actually express the sentence, but would simply fall silent. The Commentary counsels that if a student asks not to hear the description of hell (which follows from this point), a teacher should teach the student meditation and then wait until the student has reached stream-entry before returning to a description of [the hells].

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"Then the hell-wardens torture [the person with a store of bad karma] with what's called a fivefold imprisonment: They drive a red-hot iron stake through one hand, they drive a red-hot iron stake through the other hand, they drive a red-hot iron stake through one foot, they drive a red-hot iron stake through the other foot, they drive a red-hot iron stake through the middle of his chest.

"There one feels painful, racking, piercing feelings, yet one does not die as long as one's unwholesome karma is not yet exhausted.

"Then the hell-wardens lay one down and slice one with axes. Then they hold one's feet up and head down and slice one with adzes. Then they harness one to a chariot and drive one back and forth over ground that is blazing, burning, and glowing.

"Then they make one climb up and down a vast mountain of embers that is blazing, burning, and glowing. Then they hold one's feet up and head down and plunge one into a red hot copper cauldron that is blazing, burning, and glowing.

"There one boils with bubbles foaming. And as one is boiling there with bubbles foaming, one goes now up, now down, now all around. There one feels painful, racking, piercing feelings, yet one does not die as long as hone's unwholesome karma is not yet  exhausted [4].

• NOTE 4: In the Sri Lankan (Sinhalese), Burmese, and British Pali Text Society editions, all in Pali, the sentence, "There one feels painful, racking, piercing feelings, yet one does not die as long as one's unwholesome karma is not exhausted" appears after each of the punishments [painful karmic consequences] listed in this paragraph. In the Thai edition, which is followed here, it appears only at the end of the paragraph.

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"Then the hell-wardens throw one into the Great Hell [Avici, "The Waveless"]. And as to the Great Hell, meditators:

"It is four-cornered and has four gates set in the middle of each side. It is surrounded by an iron fortress wall and roofed with iron. Its floor is made of red hot iron, heated, fully blazing. It stands always spreading 100 leagues all around.

 

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"The flame that leaps from the eastern wall of the Great Hell strikes the western wall. The flame that leaps from the western wall strikes the eastern wall. The flame that leaps from the northern wall strikes the southern wall. The flame that leaps from the southern wall strikes the northern wall. The flame that leaps from the bottom strikes the top. The flame that leaps from the top strikes the bottom.

"There one feels painful, racking, piercing feelings, yet one does not die as long as one's unwholesome karma is not yet exhausted.

 

"There comes a time when, ultimately, with the passing of a long stretch of time, the eastern gate of the Great Hell opens. One runs there, rushing quickly. As one runs there, rushing quickly, one's outer skin burns, one's inner skin burns, one's flesh burns, one's tendons burn, even one's bones turn to smoke.

When [one's foot] is lifted, one is the just same [5].

• NOTE 5: The Commentary does not explain the meaning of this ambiguous sentence. It could mean that when the hell-being's foot is lifted from the burning hot floor, either (1) one's skin and so on continues burning or (2) one's body returns to its original form, either of which is gruesome. 

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"But when one finally arrives, the door slams shut. There one feels painful, racking, piercing feelings, yet one does not die as long as one's unwholesome karma is not yet exhausted.

 

"There comes a time when, ultimately, with the passing of a long stretch of time, the western gate of the Great Hell opens... the northern gate... the southern gate of the Great Hell opens. One runs there, rushing quickly. As one runs there, rushing quickly, one's outer skin burns, one's inner skin burns, one's flesh burns, one's tendons burn, even one's bones turn to smoke. When [one's foot] is lifted, one is the just same. But when one finally arrives, the door slams shut. There one feels painful, racking, piercing feelings, yet one does not die as long as one's unwholesome karma is not yet exhausted.

 

"There comes a time when, ultimately, with the passing of a long stretch of time, the eastern gate of the Great Hell opens. One runs there, rushing quickly. As one runs there, rushing quickly, one's outer skin burns, one's inner skin burns, one's flesh burns, one's tendons burn, even one's bones turn to smoke. When [one's foot] is lifted, one is the just same. One gets out through the gate. But right next to the Great Hell is a vast Excrement Hell.

"One falls into that. And in that Excrement Hell, needle-mouth beings bore into one's outer skin. Having bored into one's outer skin, they bore into one's inner skin... one's flesh... one's tendons... the bone. Having bored into the bone, they feed on the marrow. There one feels painful, racking, piercing feelings, yet one does not die as long as one's unwholesome karma is not yet exhausted.

 

"Right next to the Excrement Hell is the vast Hot Ashes Hell. One falls into that. There one feels painful, racking, piercing feelings, yet one does not die as long as one's harmful actions are not yet exhausted.

 

"Right next to the Hot Ashes Hell is the vast Simbali Forest, [with trees] reaching up a league, covered with thorns 16 finger breadths long -- blazing, burning, and glowing. One enters that and is made to climb up and down them. There one feels painful, racking, piercing feelings, yet one does not die as long as one's unwholesome actions are not yet exhausted.

 

"Right next to the Simbali Forest is the vast Sword-leaf Forest. One enters that. There the leaves, stirred by the wind, cut off one's hand, cut off one's foot, cut off one's hand and foot, cut off one's ear, cut off one's nose, cut off one's ear and nose. There one feels painful, racking, piercing feelings, yet one does not die as long as one's unwholesome karma is not yet exhausted.

 

"Right next to the Sword-leaf Forest is the vast Lye-water River. One falls into that. There one is swept downstream, one is swept upstream, one is swept downstream and upstream. There one feels painful, racking, piercing feelings, yet one does not die as long as one's unwholesome karma is not yet  exhausted.

 

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"Then the hell-wardens pull one out with a hook and, placing one on the ground, say: 'Well, good person, what do you want?'

"One replies, 'I'm hungry, venerable sirs.' So the hell-wardens pry open one's mouth open with red hot iron tongs -- blazing, burning, and glowing -- and throw into it a copper ball, blazing, burning, and glowing.

"It burns one's lips, it burns one's mouth, it burns one's stomach and comes out the lower side, carrying along one's bowels and intestines. There one feels painful, racking, piercing feelings, yet one does not die as long as one's unwholesome actions are not yet exhausted.

 

"Then the hell-wardens say: 'Well, good person, what do you want?' One replies: 'I'm thirsty, venerable sirs.' So the hell-wardens pry open one's mouth with red hot iron tongs -- blazing, burning, and glowing -- and pour into it molten copper, blazing, burning, and glowing.

"It burns one's lips, it burns one's mouth, it burns one's stomach and comes out the lower side, carrying along one's bowels and intestines. There one feels painful, racking, piercing feelings, yet one does not die as long as one's unwholesome karma is not yet exhausted.

 

"Then the hell-wardens throw one back into the Great Hell once more [6].

• NOTE 6: The Commentary notes that not everyone who falls into [Avici] hell is tortured with all of these painful karmic consequences: some of the tortures are skipped; in some cases the hell-being's karma is exhausted before the full round of tortures is completed, so that one dies and is reborn elsewhere. Not everyone goes for repeated rounds. Also, it should be noted that suffering in hell is NEVER for eternity (though it may certainly feel like an eternity). As the discourse implies, when the hell-being's bad karma is exhausted, one dies and is reborn elsewhere, in accordance with one's other karma.

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"Once, meditators, the thought occurred to King Yama: 'Those who did bad deeds in the world are tortured in these many ways. O, that I might gain [rebirth in] the human state! And that a Wayfarer (Tathāgata, a buddha) -- worthy and rightly awakened -- might arise in the world! And that I might attend to that Wayfarer! And that he might teach me the [liberating] Dharma! And that I might understand his Dharma!'

 

"I tell you this, meditators, not from having heard it from another wandering ascetic or Brahmin. On the contrary, I tell you this just as I have known for myself, seen it for myself, understood it for myself."

 

That is what the Blessed One said. Having said it, the [Welcome One and] Well-Gone One, the Teacher, further said:

 

Warned by deva messengers, those youths who are heedless grieve for a long, long time -- people entering a lower state.

But those here who are good, people of upright conduct, when warned by deva messengers are ever heedful of this ennobling Dharma.

Seeing danger in clinging, in the coming-into-play of rebirth and death, they are released from letting go (not being clingy), in the ending of rebirth and death. They, happy, arriving at safety, fully released here and now, having gone, gone beyond all anger and danger, have escaped all suffering and disappointment.