Showing posts with label world's oldest known temple. Show all posts
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Wednesday, August 7, 2024

World's oldest pyramid not built by humans

Circumambulation of world's largest excavated Buddhist temple: Borobudur, Indonesia
Gunung Panang Pyramid in Java, Indonesia, is volcano size with unexplained hewn rocks.

Indonesia has a tribe that keeps its dead around.
Officially, the largest pyramid in the world is in Cholula in ancient Mesoamerica near Mexico City, not in Egypt. The actual largest may be in Bosnia, but officials have not recognized it as anything more than a mountain shaped like a pyramid, despite its cave/tunnel system and artifacts allegedly found in the area.

Another largest/oldest contender is in formerly Buddhist Indonesia. Like Mexico, it is massive. Like Bosnia, it is the size of a mountain and very old. Science would previously not acknowledge Indonesia. Now it does, with a twist: Archeologists say it was not built by humans.
Gunung Padang Pyramid, Java, Indonesia
Who could have built Gunung Padang mountain?
Indonesia is home to the "world's largest Buddhist temple," Borobudur, on the island of Java. The pyramidal structure was built without mortar like Egyptian pyramids, as if mimicking the smoldering volcano visible behind it.

Did the designers and builders -- who were likely not earthling humans (but rather space devas humanoids, "shining ones," "gods," ETs or extradimensionals) -- create an even older and far more massive Indonesian pyramid? Archaeologists claim:

The world's oldest pyramid was built 25,000 years ago, but it was not created by humans. [This is said to be about the time Egypt's great Sphinx was built based on visible watermarks at its base.]


Djoser Step Pyramid, Egypt was thought oldest.
While Guinness World Records officially lists the Djoser Step Pyramid in Egypt as the world’s oldest pyramid (around 2,630 BC), a paper published in October claimed a layer of Indonesia's Gunung Padang Pyramid in Java was constructed as far back as 25,000 BC -- though there has since been doubts as to whether the structure was actually human-made.

Population density of Java by subdistrict as of 2022, with major urban areas (Twotwofourtysix)

Are these massive stones hewn or natural?
In research led by Danny Hilman Natawidjaja of the Indonesian Institute of Sciences, and published in the journal Archaeological Prospection, the academics write that “the pyramid’s core consists of meticulously sculpted massive andesite lava” and that the “oldest construction” element of the pyramid “likely originated as a natural lava hill before being sculpted and then architecturally enveloped.”

They write: “This study sheds light on advanced masonry skills dating back to the last glacial period. This finding challenges the conventional belief that human civilisation and the development of advanced construction techniques emerged only…with the advent of agriculture approximately 11,000 years ago.

Gobekli Tepe: Genesis of the Gods
“Evidence from Gunung Padang [in Java] and other sites, such as Gobekli Tepe [in Turkey], suggests that advanced construction practices were already present when agriculture had, perhaps, not yet been invented.”

The academics also claim that the builders “must have possessed remarkable masonry capabilities.” but one UK archaeologist has rubbished the paper, saying he is “surprised [it] was published as is.”

Flint Dibble, from UK's Cardiff University, told the journal Nature that there is no clear evidence to suggest the buried layers were built by humans. More
  • Liam O'Dell, Indy 100 via MSN, Aug. 6, 2024, "'World’s oldest pyramid' built 25,000 years ago was not made by humans, archaeologists claim"; Pat Macpherson, Dhr. Seven (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly

Monday, November 6, 2023

Science: World's oldest pyramid Indonesia

Chris Samuel, US Daily Express, 11/6/23; Dhr. Seven, Maya (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly
Many Buddhist monastics, from the West as well as the East, visit Borobudur Temple.



The stupa bells atop the pyramid Borobudur
Could it possibly be a coincidence that the world's largest (excavated) Buddhist temple, Borobudur Candhi or "Big Buddha Temple," is a pyramid in Indonesia AND the world's oldest pyramid is in Indonesia? They are not the same. One is a massive mountain known as the  Gunung Padang Megalithic Site, and the other is the Borobudur pyramid temple mount capped with bells (stupas) with buddhas inside them, a unique feature not found in any of the other tens of thousands Buddhist temples across the planet.

US Scientists find 'world's oldest pyramid' built 10,000 years before Egyptian megaliths

Scientists [after ignoring what locals have been saying for decades] have found that a 30-meter (100 foot) deep "megalith" hidden within a hill of lava rock in Indonesia is likely to be the world's oldest pyramid.

Gunung Padang
, or "Mountain of Enlightenment" in the local language, could also prove to be the oldest man-made construction of its size, at 16,000 years old, according to radiocarbon dating on the site.

The tests suggest that early construction of the vast structure began during the last Ice Age, making it 10,000 years older than its far more celebrated counterparts, the pyramids of Giza in Egypt.

The ancient site may also be thousands of years older than Turkey's Göbekli Tepe, which was previously thought to be the world's oldest megalith [and temple].

Researchers found that the hunter-gatherers who built Gunung Padang worked with, rather than against the challenging conditions for construction.
It was determined that the site's first and deepest layer was shaped by cooled lava flows that occurred naturally at the site.

Archeologists said the structure challenges our understanding of "primitive" hunter-gather societies and lays bare the "engineering capabilities of ancient civilizations."

[It, of course, was built with the aid of celestial devas from space and their advanced technological capabilities, not by hunter-gatherers who just happened to take time away from their hunting and gathering to do the math, engineering, construction, and sacred art bas reliefs all over the site. But as scientists cannot yet publicly accept that devas intervene in human affairs and served as rulers in the past, they must speak of hunter-gatherers as stable farmers staying at a location long enough to carry out this spectacular project that could not be built today with our level of available technology.] More:
Gunnng Padang, "Mountain of Enlightenment," Indonesian monolithic site (Getty Images)

Wednesday, September 20, 2017

Massive ancient pyramid of Indonesia (video)

Bright Insight, Sept. 14, 2017; Dhr. Seven, Pat Macpherson (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly
This is Borobudur, a pyramid-shaped Buddhist temple in Indonesia, the world's largest.


Scientists prevent excavation of CHAMBER inside world's oldest pyramid
Thirty-four scientists have literally campaigned to PREVENT the excavation of a hidden chamber -- which was found through ground-penetrating radar -- inside Gunung Padang, the world's oldest known pyramid.

World's largest Buddhist temple, Borobudur
The "Indonesian Pyramid" is at 25,000-years-old in formerly-Buddhist Indonesia, site of the world's largest excavated Buddhist temple, pyramidal Borobudur in Java, Indonesia.

(Afghanistan's yet to be excavated Mes Aynak, site of one of the Buddha's three royal hometowns, may be the largest). Currently the world's largest pyramid is not in Egypt as most of us are led to assume but in Mexico, at Cholula in Puebla.

This makes Gunung Padang twice as old as Göbekli Tepe, the astonishing and only partially uncovered temple complex of unknown origin, which is only thought to be 12,000 years old.

Links to the "debate" between disgraced, former Minister of State for Antiquities Affairs Zahi Hawass (Egypt's self-aggrandizing "Indiana Jones") and American researcher and author Graham Hancock (grahamhancock.com):

Tuesday, October 18, 2016

Secret underground society: Hittites (video)

MSW (History); NatGeo; Seth Auberon, Sheldon S., CC Liu (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly

About 4,000 years ago, a mysterious pagan society called the Hittites dug deep into the soft volcanic rock to carve out an intricate underworld. 

But after almost 800 years of rule, the Hittite Empire vanished without a trace. Where did their people go and what clues have they left behind in their complex subterranean world?

The Hittites were an ancient Anatolian people who established an empire at Hattusa in north-central Anatolia around 1600 BCE.


  • Anatolia is the location of the world's oldest known temple, Göbekli Tepe ("Potbelly Hill"), which is 14,000+ years old.  This archaeological site at the top of a mountain ridge in the Southeastern Anatolia region of modern-day Turkey, approximately 7 miles (12 kms) northeast of the city of Şanlıurfa. It has a height of 49 feet (15 m) and is about 984 feet (300 m) in diameter and is approximately 2,493 feet (760 m) above sea level. This empire reached its height during the mid-14th century BCE under Suppiluliuma I, when it encompassed an area that included most of Asia Minor as well as parts of the Northern Levant and Upper Mesopotamia. After circa 1180 BCE, the empire came to an end during the Bronze Age collapse, splintering into several independent "Neo-Hittite" city-states, some of which survived until the 8th century BCE.
The Hittite language was a member of the Anatolian branch of the Indo-European language family. They referred to their native land as Hatti, and to their language as Nešili (the language of Neša). The conventional name "Hittites" is due to their initial identification with the Biblical Hittites in 19th century archaeology.

Despite the use of Hatti for their core territory, the Hittites should be distinguished from the Hattians, an earlier people who inhabited the same region (until the beginning of the second millennium BCE) and spoke a language possibly in the Northwest Caucasian languages group known as Hattic.

The Hittite military made successful use of chariots. Although belonging to the Bronze Age, they were the forerunners of the Iron Age, developing the manufacture of iron artifacts from as early as the 14th century BC, when letters to foreign rulers reveal the latter's demand for iron goods.

After 1180 BC, amid general turmoil in the Levant associated with the sudden arrival of the Sea Peoples, the kingdom disintegrated into several independent "Neo-Hittite" city-states, some of which survived until as late as the 8th century BC.

The history of the Hittite civilization is known mostly from cuneiform texts found in the area of their kingdom, and from diplomatic and commercial correspondence found in various archives in Egypt and the Middle East.

The Hittites used Mesopotamian cuneiform letters. Archaeological expeditions to Hattusa have discovered entire sets of royal archives in cuneiform tablets, written either in the Semitic Mesopotamian Akkadian language of Assyria and Babylonia, the diplomatic language of the time, or in the various dialects of the Hittite confederation.

Before the discoveries, the only source of information about Hittites had been the Old Testament (the Biblical Hittites). Francis William Newman expressed the critical view, common in the early 19th century, that if the Hittites existed at all, "no Hittite king could have compared in power to the King of Judah...."

As archaeological discoveries revealed the scale of the Hittite kingdom in the second half of the 19th century, Archibald Henry Sayce postulated, rather than to be compared to Judah, the Anatolian civilization was "worthy of comparison to the divided Kingdom of Egypt" and was "infinitely more powerful than that of Judah."

Sayce and other scholars also mention that Judah and the Hittites were never enemies in the Hebrew texts. In the Book of Kings, they supplied the Israelites with cedar, chariots, and horses as well as being friends and allies of Abraham in the Book of Genesis.

The first archaeological evidence for the Hittites appeared in tablets found at the Assyrian colony of Kültepe (ancient Karum Kanesh), containing records of trade between Assyrian merchants and a certain "land of Hatti." Some names in the tablets were neither Hattic nor Assyrian, but clearly Indo-European. More

Friday, October 24, 2008

Gobekli Tepe: World’s First Temple?



Gobekli Tepe: The World’s First [known] Temple?
Andrew Curry (Smithsonian magazine, Nov. 2008)

Predating Stonehenge by 6,000 years, Turkey's stunning Gobekli Tepe upends the conventional view of the rise of civilization

Six miles from Urfa, an ancient city in southeastern Turkey, Klaus Schmidt has made one of the most startling archaeological discoveries of our time: massive carved stones about 11,000 years old, crafted and arranged by prehistoric people who had not yet developed metal tools or even pottery. The megaliths predate Stonehenge by some 6,000 years. The place is called Gobekli Tepe, and Schmidt, a German archaeologist who has been working here more than a decade, is convinced it's the site of the world's oldest temple.
[The Buddhist view is that the world is far far older than science currently has any idea of. Even as Edgar Cayce saw, Egypt is far older than it is given credit for, perhaps as much as 30,000 years old. Therefore, civilizations that have come and gone are too numerous to mention. Only those utilizing stone have left much of a trace. But even recent history has almost completely vanished away to say nothing of the ancient heights the world has seen rise and fall. Gobekli Tepe is an excellent example of how easy it is to upend conventional archeological views. The story of Gilgamesh, Mesoamerican rock art, mythological tales of times and cultures long since expired, the real nature of life on earth would stagger the impoverished imagination of modern science. That this temple has been found lends credence to the legends of Aryan invaders that came down from the north to eventually create the Indus River Valley culture that gave rise to Buddhism. As the scholar Ranajit Pal has recently proposed, Buddhism originated in Indo-Iran at a time when a civilization called "India" or Bharat extended lenghtwise across Western and Southeast Asia.]

"Guten Morgen," he says at 5:20 a.m. when his van picks me up at my hotel in Urfa. Thirty minutes later, the van reaches the foot of a grassy hill and parks next to strands of barbed wire. We follow a knot of workmen up the hill to rectangular pits shaded by a corrugated steel roof—the main excavation site. In the pits, standing stones, or pillars, are arranged in circles. Beyond, on the hillside, are four other rings of partially excavated pillars. Each ring has a roughly similar layout: in the center are two large stone T-shaped pillars encircled by slightly smaller stones facing inward. The tallest pillars tower 16 feet and, Schmidt says, weigh between seven and ten tons. As we walk among them, I see that some are blank, while others are elaborately carved: foxes, lions, scorpions and vultures abound, twisting and crawling on the pillars' broad sides.

Schmidt points to the great stone rings, one of them 65 feet across. "This is the first human-built holy place," he says.

From this perch 1,000 feet above the valley, we can see to the horizon in nearly every direction. Schmidt, 53, asks me to imagine what the landscape would have looked like 11,000 years ago, before centuries of intensive farming and settlement turned it into the nearly featureless brown expanse it is today.

Prehistoric people would have gazed upon herds of gazelle and other wild animals; gently flowing rivers, which attracted migrating geese and ducks; fruit and nut trees; and rippling fields of wild barley and wild wheat varieties such as emmer and einkorn. "This area was like a paradise," says Schmidt, a member of the German Archaeological Institute. Indeed, Gobekli Tepe sits at the northern edge of the Fertile Crescent—an arc of mild climate and arable land from the Persian Gulf to present-day Lebanon, Israel, Jordan and Egypt—and would have attracted hunter-gatherers from Africa and the Levant. And partly because Schmidt has found no evidence that people permanently resided on the summit of Gobekli Tepe itself, he believes this was a place of worship on an unprecedented scale—humanity's first "cathedral on a hill."

Eerie similarity to Egyptian style art, hear featuring vulture

With the sun higher in the sky, Schmidt ties a white scarf around his balding head, turban-style, and deftly picks his way down the hill among the relics. In rapid-fire German he explains that he has mapped the entire summit using ground-penetrating radar and geomagnetic surveys, charting where at least 16 other megalith rings remain buried across 22 acres. The one-acre excavation covers less than 5 percent of the site. He says archaeologists could dig here for another 50 years and barely scratch the surface.

Gobekli Tepe was first examined—and dismissed—by University of Chicago and Istanbul University anthropologists in the 1960s. As part of a sweeping survey of the region, they visited the hill, saw some broken slabs of limestone and assumed the mound was nothing more than an abandoned medieval cemetery. In 1994, Schmidt was working on his own survey of prehistoric sites in the region. After reading a brief mention of the stone-littered hilltop in the University of Chicago researchers' report, he decided to go there himself. From the moment he first saw it, he knew the place was extraordinary.

Unlike the stark plateaus nearby, Gobekli Tepe (the name means "belly hill" in Turkish) has a gently rounded top that rises 50 feet above the surrounding landscape. To Schmidt's eye, the shape stood out. "Only man could have created something like this," he says. "It was clear right away this was a gigantic Stone Age site." The broken pieces of limestone that earlier surveyors had mistaken for gravestones suddenly took on a different meaning. More>>