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Thursday, July 23, 2026

When Slayer was punk crossover thrash

(Fabricio Gabriel The Channel) Rehearsal 1986 | Club Horizon Garage (HD 50 FPS upgrade)
  • The greatest live display in the history of rock music: SLAYER METAL GRAMMYS PERFORMANCE in front of the three remaining Beatles (John, Ringo, and Yoko) and Hollywood celebrities, performing "Angel of Death"
From their humble beginning in an LA garage, no one expected Slayer at the Grammys 2022 😜

Slayer is an American (punk crossover-, thrash-, death-, speed-, black-) metal band from Huntington Park, South Central LA, California, formed in 1981 by guitarists Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman, Cuban drummer Dave Lombardo, and Chilean singer/bassist Tom Araya.
The Slayer formula #thrashmetal #TomAraya - Satanic and evil? Tom explains
Slayer's first ever song to be released "Aggressive Perfector"

Jeff's death by necrotizing fasciitis on arm
Slayer's fast and aggressive musical style made them one of the "big four" bands of thrash metal, alongside Metallica, Megadeth, and Anthrax.

💀 Since Hanneman's death from a flesh-eating spider bite in 2013, things haven't been the same. ☠️ Araya became a fat backache-complaining stay-at-home dad, King created Slayer 2.0 (the new band "Kerry King"), Lombardo left after getting fed up with never getting paid.

In the original lineup, King, Hanneman, and Araya contributed to the band's lyrics, and all of the band's music was written by King and Hanneman.


The band's graphic lyrics and album art -- which cover religion, occultism, terrorism, serial killers, fascism, racism, and war -- have generated censorship, album bans, delays, lawsuits, and criticism from religious groups.

However, Slayer's music has been highly influential, frequently cited by many bands as an influence musically, visually (tee-shirts are everywhere), and lyrically... More

Nobody would pay to hear this garbage!

Slayer is harmful to children
Beavis & Butthead Slayer parody tee-shirt (ReproTees.com)
Science: Heavy Metal = Happiness?
Call yourself a meditator listening to this high-speed noise pollution?
Ugly heart of R'n'R: Keith Richards?
(The Versed: Masters of Music) When rock stars are asked about the
ugly leader of the Rolling Stones Keith Richards (not Mick Jagger)

Thursday, January 8, 2026

Punk rock to thrash metal: 'Institutionalized'


After the umpteenth lineup change, ST in 2024
Suicidal Tendencies is an American punk rock crossover thrash metal band formed in 1980 [5] in Venice Beach (Los Angeles), California, by vocalist [wannabee white gang member/bike clubber] Mike Muir.

Punk? I'm a one-man cult of personality for ca$h
The band [could be called a one-hit wonder with "Institutionalized" on MTV that] has undergone various lineup changes, with Muir as the only remaining original member. [Got ego?]

Their current lineup includes Muir, guitarists Dean Pleasants and Ben Weinman, bassist Tye Trujillo, and drummer Jay Weinberg.

And it all started with this 1983 crossover album

Notable musicians who have contributed to the band's studio and/or live activities include:
  • guitarists Rocky George and Mike Clark;
  • bassists Louiche Mayorga, Bob Heathcote, Robert Trujillo, Ra Díaz, Josh Paul, and Stephen "Thundercat" Bruner; and
  • drummers Amery Smith, Jimmy DeGrasso, Brooks Wackerman, David Hidalgo Jr., Thomas Pridgen, Ron Bruner, Eric Moore, [Slayer's] Dave Lombardo, Brandon Pertzborn, Greyson Nekrutman, and session musician Josh Freese.
It's punk/thrash, but is it hardcore enough?
Along with D.R.I., Corrosion of Conformity, and Stormtroopers of Death, Suicidal Tendencies is often credited as one of "the fathers of crossover thrash" [6, 7, 8]. They have released 14 studio albums... More: Suicidal Tendencies

Thursday, February 27, 2025

AI bots' secret language: Gibberlink

Look, SZA, I'm Serena crip walking with Kendrick - Ooh, you bad, Super - It's a meme now

Gibberlink mode: AI language emerges in AI-to-AI communication (GGU 1080)

(Mediafy Agency) Feb. 24, 2025: Can AI evolve its own language? In this viral experiment, two AI devices realize they are artificial intelligences and switch to secret gibberish, "Gibberlink Mode" — a mysterious, machine-optimized way of communicating.

Sexbot, are your feelings real emotions?
This raises big questions about AI transparency, interpretability, and the future of artificial intelligence. Could AI develop a language that humans can’t understand?

How will AI-to-AI communication shape the future of technology? Watch this video to see it unfold.

🔹What is Gibberlink mode? Gibberlink mode refers to the moment AI agents abandon human-readable language in favor of a more efficient, machine-based communication system. AI researchers have observed similar behaviors in past experiments. 

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  • Mediafy Agency, Feb. 24, 2025; Krystal Ball and Saagar [Stick], Breaking Points, Feb. 22, 2025; CC Liu, Sheldon S., Seth Auberon (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly

Wednesday, May 29, 2024

Street drugs laced with toxin for mass ODs

People gather outside the Savage Sisters' community outreach storefront in the Kensington neighborhood of Philadelphia. The area is being hit hard by Medetomidine and Xylazine, powerful sedatives most often used by veterinarians that are moving through the illicit drug supply triggering "mass overdose" events and causing gruesome skin wounds (Matt Rourke/AP).

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Drug dealing gangs mix another deadly sedative into U.S. street drugs causing 'mass overdoses'
The Least of Us on fentanyl and meth
(NPR, May 29, 2024) Public health officials say Mexican cartels and drug gangs inside the U.S. are mixing a dangerous chemical sedative called medetomidine into fentanyl and other drugs sold on the street.

The combination triggered a new wave of overdoses that began in late April 2024 and have accelerated in May.

"The numbers reported out of Philadelphia were 160 hospitalizations over a 3 or 4-day period," said Alex Krotulski, who heads an organization called NPS Discovery that studies illicit drugs sold in the U.S.

Medetomidine, most often used by veterinarians as an animal tranquilizer, but also formulated for use in human patients, has also been linked to recent “mass overdose outbreaks” in Chicago and Pittsburgh.

Experts say the chemical, mixed into counterfeit pills and powders sold on the street, slows the human heart rate to dangerous levels. It's impossible for drug users to detect.

Public health advisories have been issued in Illinois and Pennsylvania. Dr. Brendan Hart at Temple University in Philadelphia says they first began hearing reports of street drug users exposed to the fentanyl-medetomidine mix in April 2024.

Sam Quinones
"Some of our emergency medicine doctors started stopping me in the hallway," Dr. Hart told NPR. "They said, 'Something funny is going on with the overdoses.'

"Patients were coming in with very low heart rates, as low as in the 20s. A normal heartrate is 60 to 100 [beats per minute], so 20s is extremely low."

Laboratory tests of street drug samples came back positive for the powerful sedative, which is used in some formulations by doctors with human patients, but only in carefully controlled medical settings.

Medetomidine was previously detected in the illicit drug supply as early as 2022 but only rarely and in small amounts. This time experts say it appears to be spreading rapidly, with large-scale overdose events also reported earlier this year in Toronto, Canada.

U.S. drug supply grows more toxic
Last year the Biden administration issued a warning that street fentanyl was being mixed with another tranquilizer used by veterinarians called xylazine.

That mix of drugs led to more overdoses and many users also experience terrible flesh wounds that can linger for months or years. Medetomidine is even more powerful than xylazine, experts told NPR.

As it spreads, Krotulski said no one knows what long-term health effects this new cocktail of chemicals will cause in the human body.

"Patients are being cared for as we speak in emergency rooms," he said. "These are very complex drug products. You’ve got fentanyl adulterated with xylazine that now also contains medetomidine." More: Warnings of new deadly chemical in street drug supply

Saturday, January 20, 2024

Dying, seeing, talking to God: Near Death

Shaman Oaks, Penny Wittbrodt, 9/14/21; Pat Macpherson, Dhr. Seven (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly

What God told her about your thoughts will shock you! (NDE)
(Shaman Oaks) Penny Wittbrodt's near death experience (NDE) and how she got out of a void. "God" showed her a future event with her grandson -- and taught her the power of thoughts, and why forgiveness is so important. This is her NDE Christian testimony.

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Monday, October 7, 2019

Surfing the Flood (sutra)

Dhr. Seven, Pat Macpherson (eds.) based on Ven. Thanissaro (trans.), SN 1.1, Ogha-Tarana Sutra: "Crossing Over the Flood," Wisdom Quarterly; Surfing for Beginners

Best places to surf in Ireland (Surfer Today)
A wave is coming, a great wave. A flood is coming, another one. We are inundated. All around is this flood. There are four "floods" or ogha, the four corruptions, cankers, taints, intoxicating biases.

NOTE: This sutra opens The Connected Discourses (Samyutta Nikaya, "Kindred Sayings") with a paradox. The Commentary informs us that the Buddha teaches this deva* using a paradox to subdue her pride.
  • *"Shining one," radiant light being, woodland fairy, or glowing space visitor.
To put this paradox in context, read other passages from the Pali canon that discuss right effort.

SUTRA
Thus have I heard. On one occasion the Blessed One (the Buddha) was staying near Savatthi in Jeta's Grove in the multi-millionaire's monastery.

Then a certain devi, when the night was far gone, her radiance lighting up the entire Jeta's Grove, went to the Blessed One.

When she arrived, she bowed, stood respectfully to one side, and said: "Tell me, dear sir, how you crossed over the flood."

[The Buddha replied:] "I crossed over the flood by neither pushing forward nor staying in place"* [in the way one rides a wave when surfing.]
  • *Or "unestablished." See Udana 8.1 and related references at SN 12.38 and SN 12.64.
"But how, dear sir, did you cross over the flood without pushing forward and not staying in place?"

"If I were to push forward, I whirled about. If I were to stay in place, I sank. So I crossed over the flood by neither pushing forward nor staying in place."

[The devi replied:]

At long last I behold
a Brahmin, fully awakened,
who without pushing forward,
without staying in place,
has crossed over
the entanglements
of the world.

That is what the deva said. The Teacher approved. Realizing "the Teacher has approved of me," she bowed, circumambulated him — respectfully keeping him on the right — then vanished right then and there.

Monday, February 26, 2018

The Ocean of Endless Wandering: "Samsara"

Based on Ven. Thanissaro (Samsara, The Karma of Questions) edited by Dhr. Seven, Ananda M., Amber Larson, Crystal Quintero, Seth Auberon (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly
Wow, that is one BIG dangerous ocean! A flood! A vast and endless expanse of water!
A big boat for everyone to cross over? SSM
Samsara literally means "the continued wandering on" through rebirth.

It is the name -- in Buddhism, Vedic Brahminism, Hinduism, and Jainism -- for the disappointing place before crossing over to "the further shore" called nirvana (the deathless).

But Buddhist texts do not literally call it a "place." It is a process: the impersonal process of rebirth.

What are we doing as we store up karma (deeds) and meet with their results? We are expressing the tendency to continue wandering on in this endless cycle, creating worlds on top of worlds, moving into them, then lose them as they hurtle toward destruction.

Even as worlds fall apart, which they do from the moment of their creation, we create others and go there.

At the same time, on account of the playing out of karma, we bump into others who are also co-creating worlds.
 
Well, it was worth a try, but this sea is rough.
The play of this impermanent, impersonal, and unfulfilling process can at times be enjoyable. It would even be an innocent pastime if it were not for the fact that it entails so much disappointment (suffering, loss, misery, pain, woe, ill, dukkha).

Worlds keep caving in and killing us, with each rebirth, a redeath. Moving into a new world requires effort, depleting our store of merit which is what brings about pleasing results. There are great pains and risks of taking rebirth again and again.

We store up bad (unwholesome, unprofitable, akusala) karma to be met with again and again. We endure hard knocks -- mental and physical -- enduring childhood after childhood, ignorance into adulthood, then ignorance again.

The Buddha posed the question, "What is greater, the water in the oceans or the tears we have shed while continuing to wander on [life after life]?" The answer, of course, is the tears. We might reflect on this the next time we stand at the beach and gaze at the ocean or play in the waves. More

Ocean of Tears

The Wheel of Rebirth is endless and so sad!
"Meditators, what is greater, the tears shed while continuing to wander on through this long, long cycle -- crying and weeping from being brought into contact with what we do not want and being separated from what we do want -- or the water in the four great oceans?

"...This is the greater: the tears shed while wandering on...
 
"Long have we (repeatedly) experienced the death of a mother. The tears shed over a mother's death while wandering on through this long, long cycle -- crying and weeping from being brought into contact with what we do not want and being separated from what we want -- are greater than the water in the four great oceans.
 
No!! I'm a state-sponsored killer of children!
"Long have we (repeatedly) experienced the death of a father... the death of a brother... the death of a sister... the death of a son... the death of a daughter... the loss of relatives... the loss of wealth... loss due to disease.

"The tears we have shed due to loss because of disease while continuing to wander on through this long, long cycle -- crying and weeping from being brought into contact with what we do not want and being separated from what we want -- are greater than the water in the four great oceans.
 
"Why is that? It is because the starting point of this wandering on is unfathomable. A beginning is not evident since beings -- hindered by ignorance and fettered by craving -- have been wandering on.

"Long have we experienced suffering, experienced pain, experienced loss, swelled the cemeteries -- long enough to become disenchanted with all formations (things dependent on support-conditions for their existence), long enough to become dispassionate, long enough to let go" (SN 15.3).

A human rebirth is precious
I'm wasting my human life in bondage to craving!
"Meditators, suppose that this great earth were totally covered with water and a person were to toss a floating ring upon the water.

"Wind from the east would push it west, wind from the west would push it east, wind from the north would push it south, and wind from the south would push it north.

"Now suppose a blind sea turtle were to dive in and only come to the surface once every century.

"What do you think -- how likely is it that that blind sea turtle, coming to the surface only once every century, would stick its head through that ring?"

"Venerable sir, it would be very unlikely if the blind sea turtle, coming to the surface only once a century, were to stick its head through that ring."
 
"Likewise, meditators, it is rare that one is ever reborn on the human plane. [It is more likely that that blind sea turtle, surfacing only once every century, would stick its head through a ring as it is being sent every which way by wind and wave.]

"Likewise, it is rare that a Tathagata [a Buddha], worthy and fully awakened, ever arises in the world.

"Likewise, it is rare that a Doctrine and Discipline (Dharma-Vinaya) expounded by a Tathagata ever appears in the world.

"Now, this human plane has been reached. A Tathagata, worthy and fully awakened, has arisen in the world. A Doctrine and Discipline expounded by a Tathagata has appeared in the world.
 
"Therefore, our duty is the [fourfold] contemplation:
  1. 'This is suffering...
  2. This is the origin of suffering... 
  3. This is the cessation of suffering... 
  4. This is the path-of-practice leading to the cessation of suffering'" (SN 56.48).
[NOTE: These are the Four Ennobling Truths, the four things that lead us to complete liberation from the sea of samsara, the otherwise endless round of rebirth and suffering.]
 
Why do we wander in samsara?
The 31 Planes of Existence
"It is because of not understanding and not penetrating these four things that we have wandered on through such a long, long cycle. What four things?
 
1. "It is because of not understanding and not penetrating NOBLE virtue that we have wandered on through such a long, long cycle.
 
2. "It is because of not understanding and not penetrating noble coherence (collectedness, concentration) that we have continued to wander on through such a long, long cycle.

3. "It is because of not understanding and not penetrating noble wisdom that we have continued to wander on through such a long, long cycle.

4. "It is because of not understanding and not penetrating noble freedom that we have wandered on through such a long, long cycle.

"But when noble virtue...noble coherence...noble wisdom... [and] noble freedom [are] understood and penetrated then craving for becoming [continued rebirth] is destroyed, the guide to becoming (craving-and-clinging) is ended, and there is now no further becoming" (AN 4.1).

O, Daria, it's a Sick Sad World:

Friday, February 23, 2018

The Raft: Crossing over to Nirvana (sutra)

Ven. Nyanaponika Thera (trans.), "The Discourse on the Snake Simile," Alagaddupama Sutra (MN 22); Amber Larson, Dhr. Seven, Crystal Quintero (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly


13. "Meditators, I'll show the Dharma's similarity to a raft: Its purpose is to cross over, not to cling to.

"Listen well, meditators, and pay close attention."

— "Yes, venerable sir," they replied, and the [Buddha] said:
 
"Suppose, meditators, there is a person journeying on a road who sees a vast expanse of water. This shore is dangerous and fearful.
"The further shore is safe and free from danger. But there is no boat for crossing over nor is there a bridge for going over from this side to that.

"So the person thinks: 'This is a vast expanse of water! This shore is dangerous and fearful. The further shore is safe and free of danger. There is no boat here for crossing over, nor a bridge for going over from this side to that.

"But what if I were to gather reeds, sticks, branches, and vines and bind them into a raft?' Then that person collects reeds, sticks, branches, and vines and binds them into a raft.
"Using this raft, paddling vigorously with hands and feet, one safely crosses over to the further shore.
 
The Buddha's Ancient Path (Ven. Piyadassi)
"Having crossed over and arrived safely at the further shore, one thinks, 'Indeed, this raft has been very helpful to me! Carried by it, paddling vigorously with hands and feet, I made it safely across to the further shore!

"'Should I not, therefore, hoist this raft upon my head or carry it on my shoulders and go where I like?'
 
"O meditators, what do you think about this?

"Is a person behaving in this way doing what should be done with a raft?"

— "No, venerable sir!"

"Then, meditators, how would one do what should be done with a raft [that has served its purpose]?

"Here [in this Teaching], meditators, having made it across and arrived safely at the further shore, the person thinks, 'Indeed, this raft has been very helpful to me!

"'Carried by it, paddling vigorously with hands and feet, I made it safely across to the further shore. Therefore, should I not strand it on dry land or push it off to float in the water then go as I please?'

"By behaving in this way, meditators, that person would do what should be done with a raft [that has served its purpose].

"In the same way, meditators, have I shown the Dharma's similarity to a raft: It is for crossing over not for being clung to.

14. "O meditators, you who understand the Dharma's similarity to a raft, you should let go even of [good] teachings.* How much more of harmful ones! More

COMMENTARY
The Buddha-to-come, the Friend
*"The Dharma" here refers to serenity-and-insight (samatha-vipassana). The Buddha, indeed, enjoins us to let go of clinging-and-attachment (chanda-raga) regarding serenity-and-insight.
 
Where, then, has the Buddha enjoined the abandonment of clinging and attachment in the case of serenity? He did so in the following saying:

"Thus, Udayi, do I teach the abandoning even of the [exalted] sphere of neither-perception-nor-non-perception. Udaayi, do you see any fetter, fine or coarse, that I did not tell you to discard?" (MN 66).

In the case of insight, the abandoning was enjoined by the Buddha as follows: "And to that view thus purified and cleansed, you should not be attached, should not be enamored of it, should not treasure it."

But here, in this present text, he enjoins the abandoning of clinging and attachment concerning both (serenity and insight), by saying: "You should let go even of (good) teachings; how much more of false ones!"

The meaning is: "I teach, O meditators, the abandoning of clinging and attachment even for such peaceful and sublime states (as serenity and insight) -- all the more so in regard to that ignoble, low, contemptible, coarse and impure thing in which foolish Arittha fails to see harm, saying that clinging and attachment for the five objects of the senses is not necessarily an obstruction to enlightenment and liberation!

"But you, O meditators, unlike Arittha, should avoid flinging soil and trash into this dispensation (Buddhism)!" By this admonition, the Buddha again rebukes foolish Arittha.

Sunday, September 27, 2015

The Raft and Water Snake Similes (sutra)

Ven. Thanissaro (trans.) edited by Dhr. Seven, Amber Larson, Wisdom Quarterly, "The Water-Snake Simile" (MN 22), Alagaddupama Sutra; see also Ven. Nyanaponika (trans.)



About the sutra (translator's introduction)
Here, water snake, water snake! (Trouillebert)
This discourse is about clinging to views (ditthi). Its central message is conveyed in two similes, among the most famous in the Buddhist Canon, the simile of the water snake and the simile of the raft.

They focus on the skillfulness needed to comprehend right views properly as a means of bringing about the complete end of suffering. But rather than taking it as an object of clinging, even with views and the Dharma that helps one to cross over to the further shore, one lets it go when it has done its job of getting beyond suffering.
 
In the first section leading up to the simile of the water snake, the focus is on the danger of misapprehending the Dharma in general, particularly teachings related to sensuality. The sutra does not elaborate how the offending monk, Arittha, formulated his misunderstanding of the Dharma, but the Commentary suggests this plausible scenario:
 
"Here the monk...having gone into seclusion [to meditate], reasons as follows:

"'There are people living the household life [of a lay practitioner rather than a monastic], enjoying the five pleasures of the senses, who are stream-winners, once-returners, and non-returners [the first three stages of enlightenment short of the arhat, the fully enlightened person]. As for monastics, they see pleasurable forms cognizable by the eye, hear... smell... taste... touch (pleasurable) tactile sensations cognizable by the body. They use soft carpets and clothing. All of this is proper.

"Then why should not the sight, sound, smell, taste, and feel of a woman be proper? They too are proper!' Thus... comparing a mustard seed with Mount Sineru [Mt. Sumeru, the world mountain of incredible dimensions reaching up into space], Arittha gives rise to the pernicious view, 'Why did the Blessed One -- binding the ocean, as it were, with great effort -- formulate the first defeat (parajika) training rule (against sexual intercourse)? There is nothing wrong with that act.'"
 
Regardless of how Arittha actually arrived at his position, the Commentary's suggestion makes an important point: Just because an idea can be logically inferred from the Dharma does not mean that that idea is either valid or useful. The Buddha himself makes the same point in AN 2.25:
 
"Monastics, these two slander the Tathagata [the Wayfarer, the Welcome One, the Well Gone One, i.e., the Buddha]. Which two? One who explains a sutra whose meaning needs to be inferred as one whose meaning has already been fully drawn out. And one who explains a sutra whose meaning has already been fully drawn out as one whose meaning needs to be inferred..."
 
Having established this point, the discourse illustrates it with the simile of the water snake, which in turn serves as an introduction to the famous simile of the raft. It is important to underline the connection between these two similes, as it is often missed.

Many a casual reader has concluded from the simile of the raft simply that the Dharma (the teaching that leads to enlightenment and nirvana, to realization and liberation) is ultimately to be let go. In fact, one major Mahayana text -- the Diamond Sutra -- foolishly interprets the simile of the raft as meaning that one has to let go of the raft in order to cross the river.

However, the simile of the water snake makes the point that the Dharma first has to be correctly grasped. The trick rests on grasping it properly. When this point is applied to the simile of the raft, the implication is very clear: A Buddhist practitioner has to hold onto the raft properly in order to cross the river. Only when one has reached the safety of the further shore -- when it has fully served its function -- can one let go of it.
 
Taken together, these two similes set the stage for the remainder of the sutra, which focuses on the inscrutable teaching of not-self (anatta) crucial to a real understanding of Buddhism and the Buddha's message of complete liberation. The danger here is that due to its subtlety, complexity, and paradoxical nature, this teaching is one of the most easily misunderstood teachings in the entire Canon -- largely because it is possible to draw many incorrect inferences from it. (Ultimately it can only really be understood by direct realization, not by philosophy or sophistry. The Dharma is for understanding, not debating, for liberation, not for argument).
 
Two mistaken inferences are particularly relevant here. The first concerns the range of the not-self teaching. (How could there NOT be a self? we naturally ask. But we must always understanding that it is said from a ultimate point of view. In a conventional sense, of course there is a self and it is often the topic of discussion. The great danger and the thing that leads to paradoxes is confusing ultimate and conventional truths).

Some have argued that, because the Buddha usually limits his teachings on "self" and the truth of not-self to the Five Aggregates -- form (body), feelings (sensations), perceptions, mental formations, and consciousness -- he leaves open the possibility that something else may be regarded as a "self." Or as the argument is often phrased, he denies the limited, temporal self as a means of pointing to one's identity with the larger, unlimited, cosmic self [exactly the wrong view held not only by the Brahmanism the Buddha faced, but by modern Hinduism that says it accepts the Buddha as yet another incarnation (avatar) of God, and even by Mahayana Buddhism].

However, in this discourse the Buddha explicitly phrases the not-self teaching in such a way as to refute any notion of cosmic self. [There is no self within or outside of the Five Aggregates, and once one understands the five, this becomes very clear, as Wisdom Quarterly has dealt with this tricky topic many times before. It is the central point of the most famous of all Buddhist discourses, the Heart Sutra.]
 
Instead of centering his discussion of not-self on the Five Aggregates, the Buddha here focuses on the first four aggregates plus two other possible objects of self-identification -- both more explicitly cosmic in their range -- (1) all that can be seen, heard, otherwise sensed, cognized, attained, sought after, or pondered by the intellect, and (2) the cosmos as a whole, eternal and unchanging.

In fact, the Buddha holds this last view up to particular scrutiny and even some ridicule, as the teaching of a fool, for two reasons that are developed at different points in this discourse. (1) If the cosmos were "me," then it must also be "mine," which is obviously not the case. (2) There is nothing in the entire experience of the universe that is eternal or unchanging or that deserves to be clung to as "me" or "mine."
 
The second mistaken inference is that, given the thoroughness with which the Buddha teaches not-self, we should draw the inference that there is no self. This inference is treated less explicitly in this discourse, although it is touched upon briefly in terms of what the Buddha teaches here and how he teaches.
 
In terms of what the Buddha teaches, he explicitly states that he cannot envision a doctrine of self that, if clung to, could possibly avoid sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief, or despair. He does not list all of the possible doctrines of self included under this statement, but MN 2 provides at least a partial list:
 
I have a self... I have no self... It is precisely by means of a self that I perceive self... It is precisely by means of a self that I perceive not-self... It is precisely by means of not-self that I perceive a self... or this very self of mine -- the knower that is sensitive here and there to the ripening of good and bad karma (actions) -- is the self of mine that is constant, everlasting, eternal, not subject to change, and will endure as long as eternity.

This is called a thicket of views, a wilderness of views, a contortion of views, a writhing of views, a fetter of views. Bound by a fetter of views, the ordinary uninstructed worldling is not freed from birth, aging, or death, not freed from sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, or despair. One is not freed, I tell you, from disappointment or suffering.

Thus the view "I have no self" is just as much a doctrine of self as the view "I have a self." Because the act of clinging involves what the Buddha calls "I-making" -- the creation of a sense of self -- if one were to cling to the view that there is no self, one would be creating a very subtle sense of self around that view (see AN 4.24). But as he says, the Dharma is taught for "the elimination of ALL wrong views, determinations, biases, inclinations, and obsessions; for the stilling of all formations; for the relinquishing of all acquisitions (things clung to); the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; nirvana."
 
So it is important to focus on how the Dharma is taught: Even in the Buddha's most thoroughgoing teachings about not-self, he never recommends replacing the assumption that there is a self with the assumption [the faith, belief, or dogma] that there is no self.

Instead, he only goes so far as to point out the drawbacks of various ways of conceiving of a "self" and then to recommend dropping them. For example, in his standard series of questions building on the logic of the impermanence and suffering of the aggregates, he does not say that because the aggregates [the groups or heaps of form, feelings, perceptions, formations, and consciousnesses] are inconstant and painful there is no self. Instead he asks, When they are impermanent and suffering, is it correct to assume or say that they are "me, my self, what I am"?

Because the sense of self is a direct product of "I-making," the question gives rise a liberating sense of disenchantment and dispassion [to counter greed and craving] for that very I-making process and to put a stop to it. Once accomplished, the teaching fulfills its purpose of putting an end to disappointment suffering and stress. That's the safety of the further shore.

As the Buddha says in this discourse, "Both formerly and now, monastics, I declare only suffering and the cessation of suffering." As he also says here, when views of self are finally dropped, one is free from agitation. And as MN 140 points out, when one is truly free of agitation is nirvana experienced. The raft has reached the further shore and one can leave it there -- free to go where one likes, in a way that cannot be traced.

Thus have I heard. On one occasion the Blessed One was staying in Savatthi, at Jeta's Grove, in Anathapindika's park. Now on that occasion this pernicious viewpoint (ditthigata, harmful wrong view) had arisen in the monk Arittha Formerly-of-the-Vulture-Killers:

"As I understand the Dharma taught by the Blessed One, those acts the Blessed One says are obstructive, when indulged in, are not actual genuine obstructions." A large number of monastics heard, "They say that this pernicious view has arisen in the monk Arittha Formerly-of-the-Vulture-Killers: 'As I understand the Dharma taught by the Blessed One, those acts the Blessed One says are obstructive, when indulged in, are not actual genuine obstructions.'"

So they went to the monk Arittha Formerly-of-the-Vulture-Killers and on arrival said to him, "Is it true, friend Arittha, that this pernicious view has arisen in you -- 'As I understand the Dharma taught by the Blessed One, those acts the Blessed One says are obstructive, when indulged in, are not actual genuine obstructions'?"
 
"Yes, indeed, friends. I understand the Dharma taught by the Blessed One, and those acts the Blessed One says are obstructive, when indulged in are not actual genuine obstructions."
 
Then those monks, desiring to pry the monk Arittha Formerly-of-the-Vulture-Killers from that pernicious view, quizzed him back and forth and rebuked him, saying, "Do not say so, friend Arittha. Do not misrepresent the Blessed One, for it is not good to misrepresent the Blessed One. The Blessed One would not say anything like that. In many ways, friend, the Blessed One has described obstructive acts that when indulged in are actual genuine obstructions.

"The Blessed One has said that sensual pleasures are of little satisfaction but much distress and despair with greater drawbacks than benefits. The Blessed One has compared sensual pleasures to a chain of bones: of much suffering, much despair, with greater drawbacks.

"The Blessed One has compared sensual pleasures to a lump of flesh... a grass torch... a pit of glowing embers... a dream... borrowed goods... the fruits of a tree... a butcher's ax and chopping block... swords and spears... a snake's head: of much suffering, much despair, with greater drawbacks" [Note 1]. And yet even though he was quizzed back and forth and rebuked by those monastics, the monk Arittha Formerly-of-the-Vulture-Killers, through stubbornness and attachment to that pernicious view, continued to insist, "Yes, indeed, friends. I understand the Dharma taught by the Blessed One, and those acts the Blessed One says are obstructive, when indulged in are not actual genuine obstructions."
 
So when the monastics were unable to pry the monk Arittha Formerly-of-the-Vulture-Killers away from that pernicious view, they went to the Blessed One and on arrival, having bowed they sat respectfully to one side. As they were sitting there, they [told him what had happened.]
 
So the Blessed One said to a certain monk, "Come, monk. In my name, call the monk Arittha Formerly-of-the-Vulture-Killers, saying, 'The Teacher calls you, friend Arittha.'"
 
"As you say, venerable sir," the monk answered and, having gone to the monk Arittha Formerly-of-the-Vulture-Killers, on arrival he said, "The Teacher calls you, friend Arittha."
 
"As you say, friend," the monk Arittha Formerly-of-the-Vulture-Killers replied. Then he went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, having bowed, sat respectfully to one side. As he was sitting there, the Blessed One said to him, "Is it true, Arittha, that this pernicious view has arisen in you -- 'As I understand the Dharma taught by the Blessed One, those acts the Blessed One says are obstructive, when indulged in, are not actual genuine obstructions'?"
 
"Yes, indeed, venerable sir..."

"Foolish person [the Buddha is rebuking for emphasis with the word bala], from whom have you understood that Dharma taught by me in such a way? Foolish person, have I not in many ways described obstructive acts that when indulged in are actual genuine obstructions? I have said that sensual pleasures are of little satisfaction but much distress, much despair, with greater drawbacks.

"I have compared sensual pleasures to a chain of bones: of much stress, much despair, with greater drawbacks. I have compared sensual pleasures to a lump of flesh... a grass torch... a pit of glowing embers... a dream... borrowed goods... the fruits of a tree... a butcher's ax and chopping block... swords and spears... a snake's head: of much suffering, much despair, with greater drawbacks. But you, foolish person, through your own wrong grasp [of the Dharma], have both misrepresented us as well as injuring yourself and accumulating much demerit for yourself, for that will lead to your harm and suffering for a long time."[2]
 
Then the Blessed One said to the monastics, "What do you think, recluses? Is this monk Arittha Formerly-of-the-Vulture-Killers even warm [3] in [approaching] this Doctrine and Discipline?"
 
"No, venerable sir. How could he be, venerable sir?"

When this was said, the monk Arittha Formerly-of-the-Vulture-Killers sat silent, abashed, his shoulders drooping, his head down, brooding, at a loss for words.
 
Then the Blessed One, seeing that the monk Arittha Formerly-of-the-Vulture-Killers was sitting silent, abashed, his shoulders drooping, his head down, brooding, at a loss for words, said to him, "Foolish person, you will be recognized for your own pernicious view. I will cross-examine the monastics on this matter."
 
Then the Blessed One addressed them, "Monastics, do you, too, understand the Dharma as taught by me in the same way that the monk Arittha Formerly-of-the-Vulture-Killers does when, through his own wrong grasp, both misrepresents us as well as injuring himself and accumulating much demerit for himself?"
 
"No, venerable sir! For in many ways has the Blessed One described obstructive acts to us that, when indulged in, are actual genuine obstructions. The Blessed One has said that sensual pleasures are of little satisfaction, much distress, much despair, with greater drawbacks. The Blessed One has compared sensual pleasures to a chain of bones: of much stress, much despair, & greater drawbacks.

"The Blessed One has compared sensual pleasures to a lump of flesh... a grass torch... a pit of glowing embers... a dream... borrowed goods... the fruits of a tree... a butcher's ax and chopping block... swords and spears... a snake's head: of much distress, much despair, with greater drawbacks."
 
"It's good, monastics, that you understand the Dharma taught by me in this way. For in many ways have I described obstructive acts to you that, when indulged in, are actual genuine obstructions. I have said that sensual pleasures are of little satisfaction, much distress, much despair, with greater drawbacks.

"I have compared sensual pleasures to a chain of bones: of much distress, much despair, with greater drawbacks. I have compared sensual pleasures to a lump of flesh... a grass torch... a pit of glowing embers... a dream... borrowed goods... the fruits of a tree... a butcher's ax and chopping block... swords and spears... a snake's head: of much distress, much despair, with greater drawbacks.

"But this monk Arittha Formerly-of-the-Vulture-Killers, through his own wrong grasp [of the Dharma], has both misrepresented us as well as injuring himself and accumulating much demerit for himself, and that will lead to this foolish person's harm and suffering for a long time. For a person to indulge in sensual pleasures without sensual passion, without sensual perception, without sensual thinking, that is not possible [4].

The Water Snake Simile

"Monastics, there is the case where some foolish persons study the Dharma: sutras, narratives of mixed prose and verse, explanations, verses, inspired exclamations, quotations, past birth stories, amazing events, question and answer sessions. [These are the earliest classifications of the Buddha's teachings]. Having studied the Dharma, they do not ascertain the meaning (or the purpose) of those things (dhammas) [5] with wisdom (proper discernment).

"Not having ascertained the meaning of those things with wisdom, they do not come to an agreement through pondering. They study the Dharma both for arguing with others and for defending themselves in debate. They do not reach the goal for which [persons rightly] study the Dharma. Their wrong grasp of those things will lead to their harm and suffering for a long time. Why is that? It is because of the misapprehension (mis-grasping) of things.
 
"Suppose there were a person needing a water snake, seeking a water snake, wandering in search of a water snake. One might see a large water snake and grasp it by the tail or body (coils). The water snake, turning around, would bite that person on the hand, on the arm, or on some limb, and from that one would suffer death or death-like suffering. Why is that? It is because of the misapprehension of that water snake.

"In the same way, there is the case where some foolish persons study the Dharma... Having studied the Dharma, they do not ascertain the meaning of those things with wisdom. Not having ascertained the meaning of those things with wisdom, they do not come to an agreement through pondering. They study the Dharma both for arguing with others and for defending themselves in debate. They do not reach the goal for which [people rightly] study the Dharma. Their wrong grasp of those things will lead to their harm and suffering for a long time. Why is that? It is because of the misapprehension of those things.

"But then there is the case where some member of the clan [a Shakya or kshatriya caste in general] study the Dharma... Having studied the Dharma, they ascertain the meaning of those thing with wisdom. Having ascertained the meaning of those things with wisdom, they come to agreement through pondering. They do not study the Dharma either for arguing with others or for defending themselves in debate. They reach the goal for which [people rightly] study the Dharma. Their right grasp of those things will lead to their welfare and happiness for a long time. Why is that? It is because of the correct apprehension of those things.
 
"Suppose there were a person needing a water snake, seeking a water snake, wandering in search of a water snake. One might see a large water snake and pin it down firmly with a forked stick. Having pinned it down firmly with a forked stick, one would grasp it firmly by the neck. Then no matter how much the water snake might wrap its coils around one's hand, arm, or any limb, one would not suffer death or death-like suffering. Why is that? It is because of correctly grasping the water snake.

"In the same way, there is the case where some members of the clan study the Dharma... Having studied the Dharma, they ascertain the meaning of those things with wisdom. Having ascertained the meaning of those things with wisdom, they come to agreement through pondering. They do not study the Dharma either for arguing with others or for defending themselves in debate. They reach the goal for which [people rightly] study the Dharma. Their correct grasp of those things will lead to their welfare and happiness for a long time. Why is that? It is because of their correct apprehension of those things [6].
 
"Therefore, monastics, when you understand the meaning of any statement of mine, that is how you should remember it. But when you do not understand the meaning of any statement of mine, then right there and then you should cross-question me or the experienced monastics (learned monks and nuns).

The Raft Simile
  
My own Dharma boat is for crossing over.
"Monastics, I will teach you the Dharma compared to a raft, for the purpose of crossing over, not for the purpose of clinging onto. Listen, pay close attention, and I will speak."
 
"As you say, venerable sir," they responded to the Blessed One.
 
The Blessed One said: "Suppose a person were traveling along a path. One might see a great expanse of water, with the near shore dangerous and full of peril, the further shore secure and free of risk, but with neither a ferryboat nor a bridge going from this shore to the other. The thought might occur, 'Here is this great expanse of water...What if I were to gather branches, grass, twigs, leaves and, having bound them together to make a raft, were to cross over to safety on the further shore in dependence on the raft, making a strenuous effort with my own hands and feet?'

"Then the person, having gathered branches, grass, twigs, and leaves, having bound them together to make a raft, would cross over to safety on the further shore in dependence on the raft, making a strenuous effort with one's own hands and feet. [7] Having crossed over to the further shore, one might think, 'How useful this raft has been to me! For it was in dependence on this raft that, making a strenuous effort with my own hands and feet, I have crossed over to safety on the further shore. Why don't I, hoisting it on my head or carrying it on my back, go wherever I like?' What do you think, monastics, Would that person in doing that be doing what should be done with the raft?"
  
"No, venerable sir."

"And what should the person do in order to be doing what should be done with the raft? There is the case where the person, having crossed over, would think, 'How useful this raft has been to me! For it was in dependence on this raft that, making a strenuous effort with my own hands and feet, I have crossed over to safety on the further shore. Why don't I, having dragged it on dry land or sinking it in the water, go wherever I like?'

"In doing this, one would be doing what should be done with the raft. In the same way, monastics, I have taught the Dharma comparable to a raft, for the purpose of crossing over, not for clinging onto. Understanding the Dharma as taught comparable to a raft, you should let go even of good things [once their usefulness is realized and accomplished], to say nothing of harmful things."
 
Six View-Positions

"Monastics, there are these six wrong views (ditthitthana). Which six? There is the case where an ordinary uninstructed worldling (an average person) -- who has no regard for noble ones [those on the stages of enlightenment], is not well-versed or disciplined in the ennobling Dharma, who has no regard for people of integrity, is not well-versed or disciplined in their Dharma -- assumes about form (this body or any material form): 'This is me, this is my self, this is what I am.' More