Showing posts with label rumi. Show all posts
Showing posts with label rumi. Show all posts

Thursday, July 9, 2026

Fun and spirituality with the poet Rumi

(Daughter of Iran) Thinking is an Ego Trap: Thought will not solve our problems
(Shams of Tabrez) Life-Changing Rumi Poems (Ancient Wisdom for Modern Hearts)
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Rumi 'loves' disciple Chelebi
The History of Iran, formerly Persia, is rich and wondrous. Among the many strongest features of Cyrus the Great's powerful (Achaemenid) Empire is its enduring love of poetry. One need only to think of one of the world's greatest poets, Rumi (aka Jalāl al-Dīn Muḥammad Rūmī).

Zionist Israelis and American imperialists, who together are trying to establish a Western beachhead in the center of the Middle East and calling it "Greater Israel," may hate Iran, but we love it and Iranians, the original Aryans.


The Buddha's mothers (sisters Queen Maya and Queen Prajapati), according to maverick Indian historian Dr. Ranajit Pal, were Aryan-Iranians from a region now known as Sistan-Baluchistan, south of Buddhist Afghanistan, in ancient Gandhara (Indo-Scythia of the Sakas/Shakyas), the original Kapilavastu, which was not in Nepal as we are told. (See Non-Jonesian Indology and Alexander).


Whirling dervishes and Lala
visit Rumi's tomb in 1580
The Buddha's father, Scythian King or Tribal Chieftain Suddhodana, was a Central Asian from Kabul and Bamiyan, it would seem. But even if the historical Buddha and his biological parents bore no relation to the region, modern Iran is still a magnificent ancient society and a power to reckon with in the region.

It is a horror and a travesty that the CIA, NSA, NSC, Mossad, Israel, UK, TC, and USA meddle in it so much since at least the time of the Shah of Iran and U.S. puppet dictator gone rogue Saddam Hussein.

Mad at Iran, I quit the Olympic team

Wednesday, March 6, 2024

Monkey mind solutions to stop overthinking

Dr. Jenny Taitz, NCBC via Health, MSN; Dhr. Seven, Ashley Wells (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly

Psychologist shares 5 exercises she does to 'stop overthinking everything'
As a clinical psychologist, I've spent 14 years teaching people how to regulate their emotions and cope with difficult situations.

One of the biggest issues my clients struggle with is overthinking. It's an exhausting habit that can turn a stressful challenge into even more anxiety.
  • [It's magnified and amplified in sitting meditation, when we're trying to let go and just let things be. The habit of rumination takes over the show and just won't let go! That restlessness and worry is called "monkey mind," perhaps the most distressing of the Five Hindrances, obstacles to blissful stillness. "Meditation" does not mean controlling the mind. It means no longer letting the mind control us. Overthinking, over intellectualizing, paralysis-by-analysis are all pointless upsets that squander energy better spent on calm and insight. We need a reset.]
Here are five things I do when I need to stop overthinking everything:

1. Recognize when I tend to overthink
Shiva, when do you tend to overthink?
The first and most important step is pattern recognition.

What times of the day do I get lost in my worries? Do I notice physical signs, like clenching my jaw? Are there negative themes that come up again and again in my head? 

Then I reflect on when I am less prone to rumination, even when something difficult happens. I might worry less when I go to the gym after work, or when I listen to a funny podcast [or soothing music] on my commute. 

Arming myself with these details can help me be prepared with strategies as soon as I notice the warning signs.

2. Get some distance from myself
Solutions detailed in Stress Resets
A big reason why overthinking when I am upset backfires is because it immerses me even more in whatever I'm going through. 

The next time I notice myself sinking into fruitless rumination, try to see the bigger picture. This strategy is called "self-distancing."

I observe whatever difficult experience I am ruminating about as if I were a fly on the wall, [depersonalizing] rather [being] than directly involved. Taking a step back can provide the perspective I need to feel like I can change the channel.  

3. Swap 'why' with 'how'

The simplest way to replace negative thoughts with more constructive thinking is to shift from asking "Why?" questions (like "Why me?") to "How?" questions (like "How can I move forward?") Notice the difference: "Why" is a dead end, whereas "how" leads to productive action.

If I went on a date, for example, and the person didn't message me after what seemed like a great time, rather than ponder why, I focus on how I can create a relaxing night for myself.

By doing this, I consciously shift from unproductive ruminating to empowered planning.  

4. Write it out
When I need to process my feelings or an experience, instead of overthinking, I practice expressive writing. 

I do this exercise over the course of three days:
  • Day 1: Spend 15 to 20 minutes writing about the stress and trauma that is plaguing me.
  • Day 2: Write about how the experience has affected me.
  • Day 3: Describe how the experience relates to my current life and what I want for the future.
This practice has been shown to help reduce symptoms of depression, even weeks or months later.

Researchers say it's because writing can help us go deeper into our emotions, while also creating some distance and an end point. 

5. Reschedule overthinking
Dr. Jen Taitz | LA Certified CBT DBT Therapist
To make my overthinking feel less compulsive, I consciously postpone it until later. I give myself 10 minutes to ruminate about a problem at 7:00 pm every night then move on. 

Another bonus is that there's a good chance that I'll get so caught up in my day or evening that I'll forget to return to my worries at the appointed time. When I become conscious of them, I'll be able to see my thoughts with more perspective.

When I want to avoid the debilitating all-day background buzz of rumination, I instead turn overthinking into something more contained. This way I give myself some freedom and power back.

Dr. Jennifer L. Taitz, Ph.D. (drjennytaitz.com), is a licensed clinical psychologist and the author of Stress Resets: How to Soothe Your Body and Mind in Minutes. She graduated magna cum laude from New York University and earned her doctoral degree in clinical psychology from Yeshiva University's program at the Albert Einstein School of Medicine in New York.

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Wednesday, November 22, 2023

If Muslim woman could rap, what'd she say?

Samira Mahboub, Oct. 31, 2023; Ashley Wells, Sheldon S. (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly
Wait, Hamas is human? We were told they were rabid "Jew haters," yet here this Jewish girl says "Thank you" (Shukran) to an Al Qassam Brigades fighter, her captor, upon her release. Look at the sweetness in her eyes and this kindness of his goodbye to girl and the revered Jewish elder accompanying her. Wait, are Hamas good Muslims caught up in a war Israel started by invading, occupying, then attempting to steal all the land while carrying out apartheid and state oppression? It's starting to make sense.

A brave Muslim woman describes the ugly truth to the whole world

(Samira Mahboub) She really expresses the unbelievable situation Palestinians find themselves in under Israeli Zionist Jewish oppression in Gaza, the West Bank, parts of Jerusalem, and refugee camps in neighboring countries. Poetry is one of the most esteemed arts in Islamic culture [particularly in the Sufi or mystical form of Islam, which produced the great Rumi]. Humanity has failed, but at least I tried.

Jewish Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink counters angry Jews

'Shukran': Israeli hostage thanks Al Qassam Brigades; kind Gaza militants say 'goodbye' to freed captives
(Hindustan Times) Nov. 26, 2023: Hamas Al-Qassam Brigades has released the video of second batch of hostages who were handed over to Red Cross last night In Gaza near Rafah Crossing with Egypt. The captives are seen thanking the militants who reciprocate with 'Goodbye'. A total of 13 Israeli nationals and four Thai citizens were released by the militants from Gaza. Watch the video for more. #abuobaida #alqassambrigades #gazastrip

Monday, August 28, 2023

Tech: AI and future of Walking Meditation

Amber Larson, Pat Macpherson, Dhr. Seven, Wisdom Quarterly
Rumi: "Beauty surrounds us, but usually we need to be walking in a garden to know it."

Walking meditation was recommended by the Buddha for calm exercise while keeping the breath in mind rather than always only sitting still.

It was made more popular in recent times by Vietnamese American monk and Nobel Peace Prize nominee (by his friend MLK) Thich Nhat Hanh.

It can be its own contemplative practice. There are, after all, four positions of the body to be mindful of in sati-sampajanna, "mindfulness and clear comprehension" -- walking, standing, sitting, or lying down.

Mindful of each intention and bodily movement, one can mentally note, "Intention to lift foot, lifting lifting; intention to place foot, placing placing," and so on very slowly for each movement. This keeps one in the present moment.
Rev. Dr. MLK Jr. with Thay (Thich Nhat Hanh)
Or it can be a continuation of mindfulness-of-in-and-out-breathing, taken off the mat and into the world, usually a parikrama or dedicated walkway for meditation.

It is usually done slowly, very slowly, and calmly, remaining mindful (non-judgmental bare awareness of what is with extreme acceptance of all that is at this moment).

How is that going to work when we're all riding AI roller-skates that speed us up while keeping us from falling with no thought of balance?

The AI will balance for us like a gyrating Segway (standing two-wheel transport that doesn't fall over due to the practical implementation of a physics principle utilizing centripetal force).

AI and the coming Singularity

SINGULARITY: A possible future timepoint that occurs when technological advancement becomes unstoppable and irreversible

How to

Zen monastics circumambulate empty space?
(Wiki) Walking meditation, sometimes known as kinhin (Chinese 經行, Pinyin jīngxíng, Romaji kyōgyō, Korean gyeonghyaeng, Vietnamese kinh hành), is a practice within several forms of Buddhism that involve movement and periods of walking between long periods of sitting meditation [1].

In different forms, the practice is common in various traditions of both Theravada and Mahayana Buddhism.

Practice
Practitioners typically walk clockwise [keeping to the right a revered person or object, originally a stupa or pagoda] around a room while holding their hands in a gesture with one hand closed in a fist while the other hand grasps or covers the fist (Chinese 叉手, Pinyin chā shǒu, Rōmaji shashu [2]).

During walking meditation each step is taken after each full breath [3]. The pace of walking meditation can be either slow (several steady steps per each breath) or brisk, almost to the point of jogging [2].

Etymology
The term kinhin consists of the Chinese words 經, meaning "to go through (like the thread in a loom)," with "sutra" as a secondary meaning, and 行, meaning "walk."

Taken literally, the phrase means "to walk straight back and forth." More

Monday, August 8, 2022

Spiritual poetry of Sedona (Meetup)

Shanti Natania Grace (IntrinsicHeart.com); Dhr. Seven, Jen B. (eds.), Wisdom Quarterly

Spiritual poetry books deepen our lives.
ONLINE SPIRITUAL POETRY MEETUP meets online on the third Saturday of every month to read and discuss spiritual poetry and wisdom quotes to share thoughts, feelings, and insights inspired by these readings.

About 25 people attend from several groups. It would love to hear what poem or quote is meaningful: Who loves Rumi, the Buddha, Rilke, Joy Harjo, Hafiz, Mary Oliver, Alice Walker, Ryokan, Thomas Merton, Mirabai, Pablo Neruda, Hildegard of Bingen, Wendell Berry, Nâzım Hikmet, Zen Buddhist monk Thich Nhat Hanh or...?

Every meetup is different, depending on what participants choose to read and discuss. Let's learn from each other as we share these invitations to what is higher and deeper. We draw strength, support, and inspiration from poetry and wisdom traditions.

ALL paths and views are welcome: This is an open and welcoming space where we get to know others who share a love for spiritual poetry and wisdom quotes and for that which connects us to a deeper life, regardless of spiritual path or personal history.
NOTE: RSVPs close two hours before the meetup begins. To join the meeting one must be logged in on Zoom, and a password is required. The password will be sent by direct message or email as the date gets closer.

Please check Meetup account (top right) for messages! (There will also be an email, but Meetup.com messages appear much sooner than the emails. Sometimes Meetup's emails get bottle-necked, so it's always better to check Meetup.com account or, better yet, RSVP early). 

Take-Home Poetry Packs are available for FREE download at intrinsicheart.com under the "Poetry & More" tab. (These are a gift for enjoyment, not a prescription for readings).

To see lists of readings from past Spiritual Poetry Meetups, go to intrinsicheart.com/category/poetry/spiritual-poetry-meetup-readings. More

Wednesday, July 6, 2016

"Dear God"? (video)

Amber Larson, Dhr. Seven, CC Liu, Wisdom Quarterly; XTC (COMMENTARY)
"When I am silent, I fall into that place where everything is music." - Rumi

Hey, mouth off and I'll smote ye!
XTC's Skylarking spawned the controversial track "Dear God," which was originally issued as the B-side of the album's first single

Interest in the song saw the U.S. album re-issued with "Dear God" included, and the new version of the LP sold a quarter million copies in the U.S., reviving the band's commercial fortunes and earning critical accolades.

"Dear God" lyrics
Why don't Buddhists believe in God...or do they? (thankingthespoon.com)
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Dear God, hope you got the letter, and I pray you can make it better down here. I don't mean a big reduction in the price of beer, but all the people that you made in your image, see them starving on their feet 'cause they don't get enough to eat from God, I can't believe in you

Dear God, sorry to disturb you, but I feel that I should be heard loud and clear. We all need a big reduction in amount of tears, and all the people that you made in your image, see them fighting in the street 'cause they can't make opinions meet about God, I can't believe in you. Did you make disease and the diamond blue? Did you make mankind after we made you? And the devil, too?

I'm getting to it later. I'm busy right now.
Dear God, don't know if you noticed, but your name is on a lot of quotes in this book, and us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look, and all the people that you made in your image still believing that junk is true. Well I know it ain't and so do you, dear God, I can't believe in, I don't believe in

I won't believe in heaven and hell. No saints, no sinners, no devil as well. No pearly gates, no thorny crown. You're always letting us humans down. The wars you bring, the babes you drown. Those lost at sea and never found, and it's the same the whole world 'round. The hurt I see helps to compound

That Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is just somebody's unholy hoax, and if you're up there you'd perceive that my heart's here upon my sleeve. If there's one thing I don't believe in it's you, dear God.

Bjork, what did you attack her?

"Deus"?
(Björk) Deus ("God") from The Sugarcubes before the singer became a famous soloist
"No one 'saves' us, no one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path; buddhas only point the way." The path we walk is our actions, our karma, the results of which will take us places. What is the karma to the end of suffering? The Noble Eightfold Path.
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When Bjork was in The Sugarcubes she sang, "Deus does not exist." "Deus" is God's Latin name, of course, from which we derive diva, divine, divinity, borrowing the root from the Sanskrit deva, a "shining one" as the Buddha explained.

Buddhism does believe in God (Maha Brahma), in many Gods (brahmas) and gods (devas), and many Buddhists can believe or not, worship or not. (The route is the meditative absorptions).

Ultimately, however, the Great God or countless other gods, who themselves are not enlightened and liberated from suffering and rebirth, cannot lead us to enlightenment or even point the way. They have a much better time than humans, on the whole. But they may not even be able to tell us how we can get to be reborn where they are. They can say how they did it, to the extent they know the karma (actions) and root causes.

Be here now at every moment like Ziggy.
A buddha (fully enlightened teacher) knows the route to all rebirth-destinations. In the book The 31 Planes of Existence, a treatise on ancient Buddhist cosmology, it is laid out. Do you wish for rebirth in God's company? That's called "Brahma's Retinue" and is rather lowly.

Do you wish to be a God, a brahma or "supreme one"? That's in there. How about a "messenger angel"? That's very low but still above human, a state known as a gandharva or gandhabba, the lowest rank of deva, the heavenly musicians. Why not aspire to rebirth as a beautiful, long-lived, and influential human? That will be very short life compared to any of the deva lives. There are much worse places to land than the human state or manussya loka. Just look at the wild animal world or the ghosts and ghouls.

Wheel of Life (E. C. Baptist)
This human plane offers one advantage over all others -- the ease with which it is possible to attain enlightenment from here, midway between luxurious hedonism and woeful suffering. The devas in general have much better strands of pleasure, so much so that they're intoxicated with parties and good times, rarely allowing themselves to perceive any suffering or shortcoming to the endless round of rebirth...until they fall from their perches/stations. But then it's a little bit late to do anything about it. Now is the time.

The Buddha saw all of these destinations and declared that nirvana -- which is neither a location nor a temporary state but "the unconditioned element" -- is the best, highest above all, the only true refuge and safety. Until then, choose rebirth-destinations wisely. We're choosing all the time by our karma.


Thursday, June 26, 2014

Sufism is Buddhism with Islam

Dhr. Seven, Amber Larson, Ashley Wells, CC Liu, Wisdom Quarterly; Mac Graham (wholelifemagazine.com), Nevit O. Ergin (Inner Traditions); Ranajit Pal; Wikipedia edits
The tomb of the great Sufi poet Rumi in Turkey, the land that bridges East and West
Sufism is the mystical school of Islam heavily influenced by Buddhism and Brahmanism. Here the famous spiritual poet Rumi is seen depicted, not accidentally, in a Buddha-like posture (art-arena.com). In Buddhism a shaman in "trance" (shramana in blissful absorption called jhana, dhyana) is an ecstatic "dervish" in Sufism.

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Further proof that the Buddha's influence was so far ranging as to be imponderable comes in the form of the new book, The Sufi Path of Annihilation by Nevit O. Ergin.

Just as the key to Buddhist enlightenment (bodhi) is comprehending and penetrating with insight the truth of egolessness (anatta) so, too, in Sufism.

It is the illusion of "self," the "ego," "pride" that must be realized. In Buddhism the "self" (atta, atman) is the "soul," and this leads to a great deal of confusion about what no-self or no-soul means.
 
Conventionally, there is a self and soul in Buddhism, no matter what anyone says, but this "self" is not ultimately real, not eternal, not even existing for two consecutive moments. So in an ultimate sense, there is no self, no ego, no soul. How? See below. 

Early Sufi "saints" were Buddhists
Ranajit Pal, Ph.D. (ranajitpal.com)
The most famous Sufi writer of all, Rumi
The legacy of the historical Buddha (Siddhartha Gautama) is clearly seen in Persian literature: The resounding humanism of Jalaluddin Rumi, Hafeez (Hafiz), Attar, Omar Khayyam, and Amir Khosrow cannot be grasped without the call of [monastic] brotherhood called for by the Buddha and echoed by Alexander [the Great] and Emperor Asoka/Diodotus [a "warrior caste" noble ksahtriya/satrap west of India]
 
Sufism is known to be a universal form of wisdom that has very ancient roots. That fanā' (annihilation) of the Sufis is almost identical to the nirvāņa (complete freedom from suffering and rebirth) of the Buddhists, moksha (a general name for "liberation") of the Hindus [and the Jains and generally all the Dharmic traditions of greater India], kephalia of the Manichaeans, and Kaivaya of the Jains is due to their common origin in Indo-Iran [proto-Persia].
 
A very large number of Sufi saints were from Khorasan and Karman-Baluchistan where Buddhism once flourished. As W. Ball realized, the caves at Chehelkhaneh and Heydari are linked to Buddhism. In fact, these may also be linked to Mitraism/Mithraism [the religion of Mithras that underpins so much of modern Christianity]. 
 
The poignant story of Ibrahim ibn Adham of Balkh (see Farooqui, the Travel of Adham to Balkh), one of the earliest Sufis, closely parallels the life history of Gautama Buddha and has been immortalized in the legend of Baarlam and Josaphat (story of the Bodhisat). This was a great religious document that highlights piety, and in many cultures it marked the beginning of literature. More
 
Dawn of Religions in Afghanistan-Gandhara-Punjab
Lands of the Indus Valley Civilization
Sir Aurel Stein found a Buddhist site at Kuh-e Khwaja in Seistan in 1916. There were many Buddhas before Siddhartha Gautama.

[How many is open to question, for while the Theravada school regularly interprets kalpa to mean an "aeon," an incomprehensible period of geological time, it also has another meaning in Pali: a normal lifespan (kappa) for the age, which at the time of the Buddha was a period of 120 years. This means that the historical Buddha was the only teacher to awaken to the utmost in millions of years, whereas Jain and other teachers spoke of being one in a series of ford finders or conquerors (tirthankaras or jinas) helping others cross over to the liberated state as defined in each dharma, the goal of Buddhism being unique but all glossed as the same, i.e., rebirth in some permanent heavenly state.]

This implies that Buddhism was as old as Zoroastrianism [and the Vedas, etc.]. Early Buddhism was closely linked to Brahmanism (there being no such thing as "Hinduism" yet), Zoroastrianism [Zoroaster/Zarathustra possibly having been a titan, who opposed the devas esteemed in Buddhist texts and the Vedas], and Judaism that originated in Afghanistan-Baluchistan-Gandhara. More
Who was Ibrahim ibn Adham?
Forest ascetic Ibrahim bin Adham with devas (IMP)
Ibrahim ibn Adham (إبراهيم بن أدهم), circa 718-782, AH circa 100-165 [Note 1], see at left) is one of the most prominent of the early ascetic Sufi saints.
 
The story of his conversion is one of the most celebrated in Sufi legend -- a prince renouncing his throne and choosing asceticism closely echoing the legend of Gautama Buddha [2].
  • 1. Richard Nelson Frye, The Cambridge History of Iran: The period from the Arab invasion to the Saljuqs (CUP, 1975, p. 450)
  • 2. Muslim Saints and Mystics, Attar (trans.) A.J. Arberry intro. on Ebrahim ibn Adham; Encyclopedia of Islam, Ibrahim ibn Adham
Sufi tradition ascribes to Ibrahim countless acts of righteousness, and his humble lifestyle, which contrasted sharply with his early life as the King of Balkh (itself an earlier center of Buddhism).

As recounted by Abu Nu'aym, Ibrahim emphasized the importance of stillness [calm derived from "serenity" meditation or Buddhist samatha?] and meditation [wisdom derived from "insight" meditation or Buddhist vipassana?] for asceticism.

Rumi extensively described the legend of Ibrahim in his Masnavi. The most famous of Ibrahim's students is Shaqiq al-Balkhi (died 810). More
The concept of anatta as a doctrine is unique to Buddhism. No other teacher but a buddha teaches it. If Sufism understands it, it is because they received it from Buddhism. If it has been misunderstood or misconstrued as Annihilationism, the destruction of an existing self, then it is no Egolessness Doctrine.
 
In the Tradition of RUMI and Master Hasan...
Mac Graham (reviewer), Whole Life Times (wholelifemagazine.com, June 2014)

BkRev-SufiPath-lores
The Sufi Path of Annihilation (Inner Traditions)
Author Nevit O. Ergin mingles his cryptic contemporary short stories with sayings of Master Hasan Lutfï Shushud and the immortal verses of Rumi to reveal the barest essence of the Itlak Sufi path.
 
Our perceptions [saññā], we learn, are based on a lifetime’s accumulation of conditioned habit [sankhāra, mental formations such as our intentions or root motivations], primarily in eating and breathing.

Manipulation of these two functions through fasting and zikr (breath-control [yogic pranayama which was displaced by mindfulness of in and out breathing in Buddhist insight practices]), along with a steady, slow acknowledgement of life’s suffering [dukkha] and illusion [maya], brings release [moksha] from dualistic perception [Brahminical/Hindu non-dualism], annihilation [nirodha, extinction in stages] of the self [atta, atman], and revelation of essence beyond God -- that, “We are the beloved; God [Brahma/Brahman] is the lover.”
 
(wholelifemagazine.com)
This dualistic perception can be an obstacle to Itlak’s deep and slippery slope truth. Such mysteries require an oblique and indirect approach to replace the panaceas or placebos of religion and philosophy.

We can only approach our truest nature [Three Marks or Characteristics of Existence: anicca, dukkha, anatta, the truth that all things that exist are impermanent, incapable of fulfilling us, and impersonal] and meaning through annihilation of even those institutions that intend to guide us. [Compare with the Buddha's message in the Kalama Sutra].
 
Prepare to grapple with our most basic assumptions in this sweet, simple, and completely annihilating [liberating since there is no "thing" that could be annihilated other than ignorance and distress] adventure.
 
Shams al-Ma'arif (Danieliness/wiki)
Like much mid-eastern religion and mysticism, Itlak Sufism seems couched in suffering and denial [just as the Buddha approached ultimate Truth by negating our common assumptions using negating conventional language that is misleading to modern readers who may mistake it as pessimistic or nihilistic].

However, the goal -- [the realization of] nothingness [framed in later Mahayana Buddhism as "emptiness" (shunyata), the ultimate "perfection of wisdom," which is the liberating realization of ANATTA], absence -- transcends any such negation.

With annihilation of the [illusion of a] self, essence [the luminous quality of the heart/mind, primordial consciousness, which the Buddha analyzed (dissected, divided, broke down) in many ways: viññāna, citta, cetasikas, mental states (sankharas), mental factors, mana, nāma, manas, conceit, attention] expresses its hidden [timeless] being, allowing one to “die before one’s chronological death” or die to the illusory world.

Otherwise, as Rumi notes, we are just “a morsel for the ground.”

No self?
Wisdom Quarterly (ANALYSIS)
Hinduism: We are drops merging
The Buddha was not a materialist, nor was he an annihationist nor was he an eternalist. Even if these three categories seem to exhaust all possibilities, all three are nevertheless "wrong views" (miccha ditthi) based on very deep seated assumptions and errors.

To untangle this impossible situation is easy: There are two kinds of language, conventional and ultimate. Conventionally, there if of course a self; it is self evident! We can identify with and designate anything as "self," but if we examine it, we are almost always talking about one or more of these five things: our bodies, sensations, perceptions, mental formations (like our volitions), and consciousnesses (associated with these five senses with the mind as sixth).

However, ultimately, no such self is there; it falls away when analyzed (broken down and penetrated with insight). A materialist is one who believes only in matter, which includes most modern, "reasonable," scientific types. We know there's more, but we will admit no such knowledge because we think Science says that there's nothing more. (To believe this we have to ignore all of the science that says it does. See what David Wilcock, formerly Edgar Cayce, has uncovered in this regard at divinecosmos.com).